"When you don't believe in God..........

[David Sklansky]

"This is a basically true statement. It doesn't mean each individual thinks he is an eternal, all-wise, all-powerful being. It means that if one rejects the true God, he takes over the position of final authority for himself, effectively performing the role of God for his own life. The only ultimate he recognizes is himself."

OK. Stipulated. Therefore what?

[Alex/Mugaaz]

You are forgetting that these people recognize that there may be an ultimate beyond them, they just haven't run into yet. There is not much of a difference between your view and this one.

[NotReady]

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OK. Stipulated. Therefore what?


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I think it's important to demonstrate that all non-theistic worldviews are fundamentally irrational and that no one really lives by that principle.

The great theologian Van Til used to say that non-theistis are living on borrowed capital - they use the ideas of reason, meaning and purpose but deny the only justification for believing in them.

I'm simply trying to point that out. I've said before, it doesn't prove that God exists (which Van Til thought it did), but highlights the consequences if He doesn't. My hope is that God will use this truth to open minds and hearts to His truth. My job is simply to defend the faith.

[NotReady]

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You are forgetting that these people recognize that there may be an ultimate beyond them, they just haven't run into yet


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This is a good definition of blind faith. Christianity isn't blind.

[maurile]

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It means that if one rejects the true God, he takes over the position of final authority for himself, effectively performing the role of God for his own life.

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No it doesn't. He may defer to Britney Spears.

[ezratei]

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as well as having better SAT scores! I know Sklansky would respect the last qualification.

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Does the Big S talk about his SAT scores? That's pretty lame if he even remembers them.

[David Sklansky]

"I've said before, it doesn't prove that God exists (which Van Til thought it did), but highlights the consequences if He doesn't"

What are the consequences to poodles if he doesn't exist?

[David Sklansky]

I remember them because I bet on them. Your high school SAT scores don't matter. But what you could score on them NOW definitely does.

[NotReady]

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What are the consequences to poodles if he doesn't exist?


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They have a chance of evolving into a higher being and telling some future DS where to get off.

[fishsauce]

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I think it's important to let everyone know that I believe on a completely emotional basis that all people in this world who don't agree with me are wrong, and I make this incredibly broad, obtuse generalization (in which I assume I have god-like powers and know squat about the principles that everyone in the world lives by) based entirely on nothing scientific or provable using rudimentary logic.

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fixed your post to reflect what you really said.