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Old 03-26-2005, 08:23 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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id call with the pairs. probably cap ATo, and fold the rest. unless its been a pattern that SB is maniacally 3betting the button i dont think that the other hands are very good to get involved with.
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Old 03-26-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Preflop

This seems very backwards. You're advocating capping with weak broadways and folding strong aces. I'd pretty much reverse that and be more inclined to cap with ATo and fold QJs.

Of course, I'd likely fold ATo as well, and if there was a limper or two I'd call hands like QJs, but with no reads, no limpers, a button raise, and a SB 3bet, I'd cap ATo way before QJs.
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Old 03-26-2005, 09:17 PM
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I would call with all pps and fold the rest. Your getting about 4.5-1 immediate odds and will get a ton of action if you hit a set.
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Old 03-26-2005, 10:00 PM
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Revised: All but the pairs into the muck.

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Old 03-27-2005, 01:46 AM
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I'd call with ATo and 22-66 (I'd cap with 88). I'd fold the rest.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Preflop

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If this is the first time it happens, i fold all.

If it looks like its becoming a pattern i start capping the At0 KTs and QJs.

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3-handed and capping, I'd rather KJo than KTs or QJs. in a big pot domination isn't as important as suitedness. in a small pot, if you're dominated, you're prety screwed. QJs and KTs are probably dominated
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:50 AM
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I don't much like calling with QJs. if you think about your typical button raising and sb 3-betting standards, QJs is probably in bad shape. even though the 40/20 is probably stupid and more wreckless in that spot, QJs still feels pretty crappy to me. AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ all have you dominated and you'll be seeing those hands a LOT. pocket pairs are going to make it expensive to see the turn if you miss, and it would be a dubious peel on most flops even for 1 bet getting 11-1. the only way I'd call is if I felt like the SB would 3-bet most pairs but not mediocre big cards like KJ and KQ.
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Old 03-27-2005, 03:20 AM
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I fold all.
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Old 03-27-2005, 03:36 AM
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I'm surprised people are playing AT here.

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Old 03-27-2005, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Preflop

i really think its funny that ppl are debating this. a10 is a terrible call (or cap). qjs is better but still bad.

its all about the pps.
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