I'll put you all-in

[Khabbi]

I don't know about the rules in cardrooms, but I encourage my home game players to worry more about the chips they are betting by saying "I raise all-in" or "I'm all-in!".

Bettors only have control over their own chips, not those of their opponents. If they put all of their own chips in, we get the idea.

They don't even have to move any chips. If the short stack calls, we worry about counting chips if they win.

[ky70]

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Hi.

In my home game some people like to say "I'll put you all-in" when playing HU vs a shorter-stack, rather than just "All-in". Is this acceptable in cardrooms?

Cheers.

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I think that's okay but just to be clear if there are others still still in the hand the bettor has committed to putting in chips equal to what the guy has that the bettor proclaimed he's "putting All-in". All of the bettor's chips are not at risk as he didn't say "I'm All-in". This would only matter if the hand wasn't heads-up.

[Quicksilvre]

You ought to be fine with "I'm putting you all in." There may be a nit that objects, but you ought to be on the happy side of any ruling...as long as you don't say the word "call" before "all in."

[JonPKibble]

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Hi.

In my home game some people like to say "I'll put you all-in" when playing HU vs a shorter-stack, rather than just "All-in". Is this acceptable in cardrooms?

Cheers.

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Don't see why not --- but the best thing to do would be to ask the cardroom manager.

This is just fine. It's essentailly the same as saying 'I'll raise as many chips as you have'. Some other posters here seem to be saying you're better off just saying 'all in' - but that's a very different bet if there are other people still to act...

[slamdunkpro]

It’s a cheap angle. I find this used a lot by the same clowns who don’t want to show their cards first when called, or only want to show one.

I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me. It’s up to the bettor to specify an amount and place a bet. My response to “I’ll put you all in” “how much are you betting exactly?” When they say “All that you have” I respond, “How much is that exactly? What is your bet?, Are you going all in?” If they ask how much I have, I respond by pointing at my stack and saying “this much, what is your bet?”

BTW in major tournaments “I’ll put you all in” is not a legitimate bet.

[Khabbi]

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BTW in major tournaments “I’ll put you all in” is not a legitimate bet.

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I was watching the 1K NL (rebuy) event last night and this situation came up.

I think it was a hand between La and Law, where La made a bet and Law said "I'll put him all in". They took that as the official bet and La called and the hand went to showdown.

Now, I would consider the WSOP a pretty major event, but it was televised. Maybe they let it go because it just sounds cooler or something. On the other hand, this is why we have people making "bets" like that.

[Salva135]

SlamDunk, I think it's fine if a raiser wants to know how much his opponent has left, and then raise that amount. I don't know if you're technically obligated to tell me, but I assume that in a real tournament I could ask the dealer for his chip count and get it. I don't see a problem with this at all, and to refuse to offer a chip count just strikes me as being a dick and angry about being put at a decision for all your chips.

With that said, I think people like to say "I put you all-in" simply because of the psychological factor. It drives home the point that HE is putting YOU at a decision for all of your YOUR chips, not his. It is far more dramatic than announcing all-in to cover the original bettor, and a lot of megalomaniacs at my home games like to use it. It makes them feel big, I guess?

[JonPKibble]

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I’m under no obligation to tell you how much I have in front of me.

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Yes you are.

[slamdunkpro]

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Yes you are.

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Only if I go all in.