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Old 08-17-2005, 10:53 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush

Tuan Le... everything he does

Hoyt Corkins' hand against Cassidy in the USPC with the A and trip jacks

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Really agree with the Murphy play. He was in such a good position until he just got lazy. It really seemed that he was satisfied to win the 200K (not that I wouldn't be) and took a very unnecessary risk. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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While Murphy's play was not optimal, I really don't think you can call it bad by any stretch. It's pretty hard for Arieh to fold the K-high flush here, and Murphy thinks that Arieh is paying him off a lot of the time here with a very good hand.

Arieh just thought one level higher, and made a very good laydown.

Still, nowhere near the Tommy Reed turn fold.
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Old 08-18-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Worst TV plays ever

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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush

Tuan Le... everything he does

Hoyt Corkins' hand against Cassidy in the USPC with the A and trip jacks

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Really agree with the Murphy play. He was in such a good position until he just got lazy. It really seemed that he was satisfied to win the 200K (not that I wouldn't be) and took a very unnecessary risk. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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i think john murphy's play here was amazing. especially anything from getting lazy. he put josh on top pair/flush draw and when the river hit pairing the highest card on the board and completing a flush draw was absolutely perfect for him. he took the shot of betting it instead of check-raising all in. it was a very advanced move and josh arieh made a great laydown. one of my favorite hands of last years main event.
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:57 PM
Brad F. Brad F. is offline
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Default Re: Worst TV plays ever

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Murphy pushing into Arieh's rivered K high flush

Tuan Le... everything he does

Hoyt Corkins' hand against Cassidy in the USPC with the A and trip jacks

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Really agree with the Murphy play. He was in such a good position until he just got lazy. It really seemed that he was satisfied to win the 200K (not that I wouldn't be) and took a very unnecessary risk. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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i think john murphy's play here was amazing. especially anything from getting lazy. he put josh on top pair/flush draw and when the river hit pairing the highest card on the board and completing a flush draw was absolutely perfect for him. he took the shot of betting it instead of check-raising all in. it was a very advanced move and josh arieh made a great laydown. one of my favorite hands of last years main event.

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2 things:

1) Your avatar is wicked awesome.

2) I agree on Murphy. To say that he was getting lazy (?) is ridiculous. He put Josh on a very strong drawing hand which hit and thought he could get maximum value by going all-in. Let's say Arieh calls that 75% of the time when he pushes, Murphy will get much more value out of that then check-raising. It was a great fold by Josh, as 95% of the players out there call.

Brad
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:54 PM
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I remember a WPT event where Scotty Nguyen re-raised all-in against John Stolzmann (college student from Wisconsin who won the event). This is the hand as described on poker-babes.com:

John raised to $200,000 on the button with K8 of clubs. Scotty reraised all-in for over a million with 98 of spades. John thought for a second and then said he had to call because of the pot. He called his last $370,000 in chips and doubled up through Scotty when he flopped a king.

I'm sure that this isn't the WORST play ever, but as I was watching it, I was immediately struck by how dumb Scotty's play was. If Stolzmann didn't call, he would've have been the shortstack by far at the table. If I remember correctly, Daniel Negreanu was like, "that was so stupid" as soon as the hand was over.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Worst TV plays ever

i dont watch much tv poker but that arieh v murphy hand was strange. if i remember, i thought arieh was the aggressor on the flop and turn then murphy led the riv. anyway, it didnt seem to bad to me.

some bad ones i saw recently:

1. jen harmon folding her ak pf as the small stack when it was 4way.

2. that internet guy 3betting allin with a5 against tran. tran never folds and you risk your whole stack with a5.

3. bellande pushing allin against the other big stack with 46 on a board of a234. basically, he assured that a worse hand would fold and only a better hand would call.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:58 PM
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1. jen harmon folding her ak pf as the small stack when it was 4way.

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It seems pretty stupid until you consider the opponents and the payouts.
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:55 PM
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The worst play that I can think of was made by Alan Shein when he either called an all-in or went all-in against D'Agastino with AK on a KQJ board, when Schein was in second place in the tourney. D'Ag flipped over QQ and knocked him out.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:26 PM
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Some guy tried to steal devilfish blinds with K5s. Blinds on 4000, guys stack was 170k devilfish had about 1 million. The old man raised to 20k. Devislfish pushed with 77. The old man called in split a second and got knocked out. Probably not the worst play ever in WPT, but pretty horrible.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:36 PM
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I thought lee watkinsons call of doyle's all in with a pair of 3's was pretty bad on the legends of poker event. Lee had shown some serious calling station tendencies, and you could tell Doyle was just waiting to pounce, which he did.
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:40 PM
DontRaisePlz DontRaisePlz is offline
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I wouldn't call Murphy's all-in one of the worst plays because its an easy mistake to make under the lights.

How about David Williams dark check with 55? Or when its shown, Aaron Kanter's K5 hand...
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