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Old 11-08-2005, 11:22 PM
hachkc hachkc is offline
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

I have seen the light. Now I just need to get those cards again, maybe tonight if I'm lucky. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

He bet the flop; you should have RAISED the flop. If he had a great hand, he might have RE-RAISED. You can't raise before anyone bets, and you can't re-raise before anyone raises.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:50 PM
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There's no reasonable option other than raising the flop. I think you folded the best hand on the turn most of the time. If you had bet the flop and got raised, it's a little trickier (assuming deeper stacks than these). Sorry, man, first time you got it and you misplayed it pretty badly.

Most of the time when I get this hand, I raise preflop and everyone folds (except for the time I got allin with it preflop against AA26 and split).
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:57 PM
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There's no reasonable option other than raising the flop. I think you folded the best hand on the turn most of the time. If you had bet the flop and got raised, it's a little trickier (assuming deeper stacks than these).


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Remember, he potted into me on the flop as he was first to act after I had potted preflop.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:21 PM
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Yeah, to really break this down for you, here's the progression of events:

1) You got the best PLO8 hand possible.

2) You misplayed it.

3) You then posted about how you got unlucky.


That's pretty much as bad as it gets. But I got a laugh out of it, so you got that going for you, which is nice.
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Old 11-08-2005, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: PLO8 - First time ever and couldn\'t even show it

I was wondering when someone would say this. If you are mentally playing for an audience, you are not playing optimally.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:48 PM
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I was wondering when someone would say this. If you are mentally playing for an audience, you are not playing optimally.

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No I wasn't playing for an audience but it was kind of like having a Royal but not showing it; I'm slightly more disciplined with my money. True, I lost money but I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:52 PM
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I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.

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This is a bad assumption.
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Old 11-08-2005, 10:55 PM
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True, I lost money but I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.

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Careful with this logic. The EV that you lose through making poor folds when your equity justifies otherwise is just as bad as the EV lost through making bad bets/calls/raises.

Edit: Perhaps the EV lost through bad folds is even worse when also considering metagame implications.
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Old 11-08-2005, 11:02 PM
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3) You then posted about how you got unlucky.


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It could be interpreted this way but it wasn't my goal. I was happy just to get the hand. Would have been nice if I won with it but no big deal. I'm more interested in the thoughts on the play which are pretty negative.

What would you put the bettor on out of curiousity?


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That's pretty much as bad as it gets. But I got a laugh out of it, so you got that going for you, which is nice.

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At least it wasn't a wothless post then.
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