LC: Non hypothetical hypothetical

[Chaostracize]

It is when you're a 3% ROI player like my humble self.

[Degen]

no

and you need to get some buddies who you can trust to play them for you...and call them when this happens

edit: you know, you should count it...ROI=Return on Investment..well you invested that money, and it went astray...though if possible i wouldn't count it agaist ITM as that is pretty much for you own enjoyment

[Mr_J]

Hitting 3% ROI doesn't mean you have an EV of 3%, which is why it doesn't matter when you include it into your ROI. Alot of people on this forum seem to think ROI is primarily used to measure skill. Well it's not, it's just a statistic that measures your success so far. In the longrun, ROI does reflect what your approx EV is, but by the time you get into the longrun, any losses you have experienced by some bad connections are pretty insignificant.

[Mr_J]

"ROI=Return on Investment..well you invested that money, and it went astray"

This is true. Bad luck is a part of life. It's a bit like a tennis player not accepting a loss because of a bad call. They got unlucky and have to deal with it. So do we.

I tried to say this before and got flamed. If you're playing poker for money and not for fun, as we tend to assume people are on the tournament, you should consider everything (even extra-game details), both when making decisions and when evaluating your play after.

[top6]

You should count them.

If you don't, then you need to make some sort of an effort to figure out how many tourneys you've finished ITM because someone else had connection problems, and then put a $ value on that and subtract if from your ROI.

[theben]

if the server bombed while playing HU and the other person went absent, would you count that as a win?