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Old 01-04-2005, 05:14 PM
The Student The Student is offline
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

Maybe there's something I'm not understanding, but I've tried to buy-in to regular (non-Step) SNGs but I can't use my Step 4 entry chip to do so. It seems like the only thing I can use it for is to buy into a step 4 SNG.

Can you direct me to the original post you're referencing?

Thanks,

ts-
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:29 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

I'm pretty sure he's saying that instead of playing the STEPs, you can try to play regular SNGs in a similar fashion. You can stop at any time and take out your profit.

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Old 01-04-2005, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

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Maybe there's something I'm not understanding, but I've tried to buy-in to regular (non-Step) SNGs but I can't use my Step 4 entry chip to do so. It seems like the only thing I can use it for is to buy into a step 4 SNG.

Can you direct me to the original post you're referencing?

Thanks,

ts-

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Not to sound rude, but when you signed up for the Steps, what did you think was going to happen?
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

I'm referring to just playing the regular SnG's as if they were steps.

You're stuck with your step entry and probably have to use it.

However, if you want to practice. You can slide over to the SnG's and start at a $10+1.

If you win that, move up right away to a higher level, $33 or $55.

If you win that, move up right away to a higher level, $220.

If you ever lose, start over again at the $11.


I don't know where the other post is. I just saw it briefly. I'd have to search like you would. So I'm not going to look. It was nothing too groundbreaking, and it's likely that my clarification will make sense to you now.
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

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This is just what party was hoping for when they created steps.

People would play above their head, and instead of taking profits, lose them all into the system. The top players make more money this way, and the fish just keep on contributing.

Usually a new program has a good benefit to the site, not the player.

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The site gets most of the money from STEPS. They are not doing this out of kindness to "top players". The math has been run, and the juice on STEPS tournaments is absurd.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/walterzuey/35457.html
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

Hey Gusly,

After beating Gigabet heads up in one of the step 5s, I collected some information that I think is one of his tells: when he is trying to steal the blinds he will bet the minimum above double the BB (for example, with blinds at 50/100 he will raise to 225 and at 100/200 he will raise to 450 etc.) when you see this and it is folded to you, I'd strongly recommend a push.
Hope this is helpful.

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Old 01-04-2005, 05:37 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

If It didn't come out right, that's kinda what I meant - the last sentence kind of said that. More in it for the site than the players.
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

The first follow-up post to that link had the same thought I did over the weekend. These things are essentially pyramid schemes. By definition, they can't be profitable unless you can beat the step 5 game. And if you can do that, why not just buy in directly (bankroll considerations aside)?

[Well, I suppose you could be +$ if you consistantly got the cash place in steps 2 or 3, but if you can do that you could win faster at $33s and $55s.]

That reminds me. I'm going to start a new religion called Pokertology. Converts will receive "Evaluation Tests" upon The Center's receipt of their "tithes". These tests will tell you if you're a sucker or not.
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

There are definitely ideas in HOH that are useful in SnGs that aren't usually discussed in this forum.
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Old 01-04-2005, 06:04 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Can I sell my Step tourney entry?

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I'm pretty sure he's saying that instead of playing the STEPs, you can try to play regular SNGs in a similar fashion. You can stop at any time and take out your profit.


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The difference with the Steps is that once you get to Step 3, unless your kings lose to aces/set loses to higher set/you get drawn out on early/the BB has exactly AA-QQ on the bubble, you will make it to Step 5 almost all the time.
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