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#11
10-01-2005, 08:11 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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[ QUOTE ] To trap everyone in for the big bet on the turn. It's called a slowplay and people do it sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] He´s not a donk you know... [/ QUOTE ] I could have JJ in that spot. Krishan - 53 
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#12
10-01-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] To trap everyone in for the big bet on the turn. It's called a slowplay and people do it sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] He´s not a donk you know... [/ QUOTE ] I could have JJ in that spot. Krishan - 53 [/ QUOTE ] You wouldn't 3-bet the flop when it came back to you after EVERYONE calls the raise?
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#13
10-01-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] To trap everyone in for the big bet on the turn. It's called a slowplay and people do it sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] He´s not a donk you know... [/ QUOTE ] I could have JJ in that spot. Krishan - 53 [/ QUOTE ] You wouldn't 3-bet the flop when it came back to you after EVERYONE calls the raise? [/ QUOTE ] No, wtf. It's the perfect spot to trap the field for 2 on the turn. Hmm, should I get 1 sb from everyone or go for 2 BB from everyone. Hmmmm..... Krishan - 54
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#14
10-01-2005, 09:41 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] To trap everyone in for the big bet on the turn. It's called a slowplay and people do it sometimes. [/ QUOTE ] He´s not a donk you know... [/ QUOTE ] I could have JJ in that spot. Krishan - 53 [/ QUOTE ] You wouldn't 3-bet the flop when it came back to you after EVERYONE calls the raise? [/ QUOTE ] No, wtf. It's the perfect spot to trap the field for 2 on the turn. Hmm, should I get 1 sb from everyone or go for 2 BB from everyone. Hmmmm..... Krishan - 54 [/ QUOTE ] Everyone didn't stick around on the turn.
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#15
10-01-2005, 09:43 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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Everyone didn't stick around on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] The result for waiting was still quite good. Better than revealing your hand on the flop. Krishan - 57
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#16
10-01-2005, 09:49 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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[ QUOTE ] Everyone didn't stick around on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] The result for waiting was still quite good. Better than revealing your hand on the flop. Krishan - 57 [/ QUOTE ] You don't always have the best hand on the turn. There's a flush draw out, gutshots, and perhaps an oesd.
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#17
10-01-2005, 09:53 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
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You don't always have the best hand on the turn. There's a flush draw out, gutshots, and perhaps an oesd. [/ QUOTE ] Are some of these folding for 1 sb on the flop? If we suddenly think we are behind on the turn we have the option not to raise. Equity is equity. I'm giving up something like 60% of the flop bets for 80% of the turn bets on 85% of the turn boards. I might slow down on the bad 15% but even then I have a great redraw. Sets are all about putting as much money in the pot. It's rare that you really have to worry about hand protection with a set. Krishan - 60
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#18
10-01-2005, 10:14 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
Preflop is OK I guess although I hate to load the bases with TAG button up next. I might just let this go or I might raise light to grab the button. It's all close.
I don't like the flop bet very much. I don't expect him to raise me with slick. I expect to be raised when I'm beat and just called when I'm ahead. The only major exceptions are AJ and KJ which are likely to raise. Anyway the one thing I'm sure of is betting won't eliminate the one player I really want gone unless his hand is hopeless. I prefer to let him bet my hand for me, see what everyone does, and then checkraise if all is going well. [ QUOTE ] He´s not a donk you know... [/ QUOTE ] But apparently I am. I don't visualize a good player like you betting a draw directly in front of me. Accordingly I expect you will bet again on the turn unless someone beats you to it and I will happily raise. It is true that the board is scary and that there *might* be more protection value in immediately confronting the field with two bets, but I'm not going to worry about that. My hand and my draw are so strong that anyone who ever folds has definitely done the right thing. I'll focus on maximizing my profit by making people call as much as possible. For button to call-raise the flop when he acts after both of you would be really bad. Now the turn raise is completely set up while the immediate reraise would give away his hand. Raise the turn to protect your hand and maximize your profit. River is good. Just realize that it could backfire to QQ/JJ. One raise will be enough.
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#19
10-01-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: limping w QTo
you played this hand really bad.
you played this thread really bad as well... he cannont have JJ!! wahwahwah!! why?? river CR is obvious.
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