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Old 07-20-2005, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

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SHe figured by fold she can move up the money to a higher place

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That's the impression I got. She was short and saw someone might be out on this hand, add to that the possibility of a dead ace and it was reasonable. I was suprised, but then i could see the hole cards which is incredibly biasing.

She pulled 2nd, so it's hard to argue she was wrong.


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She might have pulled first here if she pushed. Clearly the others would fold she would have added 100K to her stack than when she went all in against Bernald or whatever with KJ she would have double for more and have a legitment stack. I feel this was the turning point for her.

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If this was a winner take all tourney, I agree. It isn't.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

Does a pro like Harmon really care about the difference between 3rd and 4th? I would think she'd just be shooting for 1st once she made it that far in the tourney.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

Winner takes 600K more than moving to 3rd. Goign all in gives here the best chance to win the thing. FOlding does not. SO you saying you fold here?
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

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Does a pro like Harmon really care about the difference between 3rd and 4th? I would think she'd just be shooting for 1st once she made it that far in the tourney.

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Old 07-20-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

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Does a pro like Harmon really care about the difference between 3rd and 4th? I would think she'd just be shooting for 1st once she made it that far in the tourney.

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Good question. Maybe she will respond. I think the potential dead ace was huge in her decision though.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

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Winner takes 600K more than moving to 3rd. Goign all in gives here the best chance to win the thing. FOlding does not. SO you saying you fold here?

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I don't think one hand can give anybody the "best chance" to win a tourney until you are head's up. Certainly if that hand is only AK.

To answer your question though, I'm not that good. I probably call, forgetting about the potential dead ace. I fold AQ though, and have in the past at exactly the same point and situation in a tourney. I won it. (I would have won the pot with the AQ though as well [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

Given the payout differences, a really good shot at 2nd or 3rd is worth more than a iffy shot at 1st or 4th. One in the hand and all that.

AK is a hand where you like to be the initiator or the one raising. Being the 2nd re-raiser with AK puts you in a position where you're pretty damn likely to be in a coin flip rather than a dominating position.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

I was shocked when I saw that lay down. What was really funny is when they did the JH human interest story she was talking about how she's such a good hand reader and always knows when they have it and when they don't. lol.
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

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I was shocked when I saw that lay down. What was really funny is when they did the JH human interest story she was talking about how she's such a good hand reader and always knows when they have it and when they don't. lol.

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They did that on purpose.... Was ironic. To me its not about reading there. Its about looking down at AK(yes im shortstack) then looking at your stack (small, good thing i have AK) Then looking at 4 players total at the table (AK is now really good) Wait red head re-raised? (its ok he has read hair)
ALL IN.....
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Old 07-20-2005, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Jenifer Harmon decision to lay down AK on a short stack?

That would be my thought process as well, but what do I know; she wipes her ass with my paycheck.
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