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11-07-2005, 10:12 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd say he's more representing an Ace or two pair. I doubt Villain folds Aces up. [/ QUOTE ] playing three handed i think his range of possible holdings here is WAY wider then aces up. i really like the delayed semi-bluff when playing shorthanded in position. the real question you need to ask is will this player fold A9 in this spot not whether he'll fold aces up. you also have to realize alot of the time you're Q is good here. [/ QUOTE ] this is what i was thinking about in the game. turned out my opponent had AJ and called pretty quick. was happy with my read about what he had, not sure how he can call there. but ultimately, i did just about get stacked there. [/ QUOTE ] Did the turn card put a flush draw on the board or was it rainbow? A lot of players in that game will jam the turn when it adds a flush draw to their pair. 
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#2
11-07-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
i suppose you guys are all exactly right on this one. the turn did put a flush draw up there, the villan was an unknown, if he had known me he would have folded. i figured he was a good tight regular player cause of how he joined the table (waiting for that shorstack to sit), it's tough to call whole stack with just top pair.
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#3
11-06-2005, 08:06 PM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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Given your typical TAG image, I think he'll probably fold anything worse than a set ... Used in moderation, I think the play is fine. [/ QUOTE ] If he is folding anything worse than a set, you should do this every time. I can't see how people would fold aces up here ... just not gonna happen.
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11-07-2005, 01:06 AM
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3k sits next to me ...Soon into it he has about 9k [/ QUOTE ] I would think you have a lot more fold equity than normal considering this.
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#5
11-07-2005, 01:29 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
Hi Bruiser,
I think this kind of bluff is something that can be applied only ocassionally to add some value to sets/two pair. I dont like bluffing with hands that have some showdown value but calling here sucks too. I think that with your usual image you will get away with this play very often though (or maybe I am mistaken about your usual image ) So allin in all I think I dont like the play unless I am you and have rockish image. Best wishes
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#6
11-07-2005, 04:38 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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I think this kind of bluff [/ QUOTE ] i don't know why everyone is so set on assuming this is a bluff...while in this particular instance villian may have had an ace, the fact remains that when playing three handed like this often times hero is ahead here.
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#8
11-07-2005, 04:54 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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well, i think its fair to say the purpose of the bet is always a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] you'd be surprised. just because most 2+2ers would never call here with a worse hand, if you ever actually played shorthanded deep-stacked NL you will see a lot of value betting with hands you wouldn't believe. so while it may sometimes be a bluff...often times it won't.
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11-07-2005, 05:13 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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if you ever actually played shorthanded deep-stacked NL [/ QUOTE ] a) i often play shorthanded deep-stacked NL. b) they arent deepstacked c) i dont think bruiser expects to ever get called with a worse hand here. If this is "often" getting called by JJ in your game, then i need to book a flight to LAX.
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#10
11-07-2005, 05:42 AM
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Re: Teach me to play LAG
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well, i think its fair to say the purpose of the bet is always a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Sometimes when the turn card is drawy, he can get called by a worse hand here if the game is juiced. But there are other reasons to raise. If you just raise here w/ big hands, that becomes easy to play against. If you call and he has crap, you give him a free card to improve if he's gonna give up. If you call and you are not auto-calling river, you give him a chance to bluff you on the river w/ his KJ. And so forth. Basically, listen to rbk. I do not think he is saying this is a value raise, just that there are many reasons to raise and your hand is often good.
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