Weak Kings?

[aK13]

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I don't agree with betting the river, but you should definitely bet the turn.

With 4 other people seeing this flop, it's very likely someone has an ace. It's not definite, but I don't think it's unlikely enough to make this a river value bet. Most of the time you'll be donating rather than collecting value.

But yes bet the turn, and take the free showdown instead.

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River is a value bet like none other.

[Dave G.]

For the river to be a value bet, the 4 players who saw the flop would all need to not have an ace a certain percentage of the time.

Knock it down to 2 players and I'm with you, but 4... it's just too unlikely. (I'd do some numbers now but I must leave. Perhaps when I return!)

[Rev. Good Will]

bad fold.

if you check the turn, you should expect to be bet into on the river

[shermn27]

Yeah, like others have mentioned. Be aggressive. Bet the turn, and I wanted to cry when I saw you folded the river. You gotta call that.

[DerFleischmeister]

Bet the turn and river.

We've discussed the value of knocking out the weaker draws, but another possible value in betting here vs. timid/passive players is, if he has a weak Ace (A2o, A4o), you may get him to fold a better hand if you keep hitting him. MP1's betting the river smells a lot like a bluff, or hitting his 10. The weakness shown in checking through the turn probably induced this bluff, but you would rather get the money in here by betting.