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#1
11-18-2005, 04:00 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
Fold...yes it's a huge pot, but you'd just make it a bigger pot for the winner (which won't be you assuming you don't hit a queen).
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#2
11-18-2005, 02:58 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
Would it be fair of me to say that most of you are concerned about CO mostly? You figure he has a set?
Consider first that me and the LAG both have him covered and will play a side pot... and unless someone has somehow flopped the straight, I still have some equity in this huuuuuuuuge pot. I'm not so sure that it's as simple as "I think you're behind, you should fold." Maybe it is, but no one has convinced me yet.
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#3
11-18-2005, 03:09 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
well I'll do my best to convince you, I'll spit out some not too coherent thoughts
like I said before CO could be slowplaying because he sucks at poker, and even thought MP is somewhat LAG, can you really think he'll do this with a pp that didn't reraise preflop and is now behind your QQ? I think you'll be lucky to be a coinflip with either MP or CO (which is very +EV since it's 4-way) but this will not make up for the times you have 0-2 outs Basically you've shown huge strength, MP has raised into a dry side pot (showing very big strength) and CO has cold-called (also showing very big strength) I think the chance that MP and CO both have overpairs less than your QQ is very very small not too mention UTG doesn't automatically have crap here
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#4
11-18-2005, 08:44 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
Call. Push a non-2 or 7 turn. Diamond turn is a little tricky. I probably push, but might c/f.
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#6
11-18-2005, 10:04 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
There are worse things in the world. In any case, in this hand, I'm unlikely to fold. With so many people in the pot you are getting pretty good odds on your money. If you win the side pot, you're on a freeroll for the main pot. The board is draw heavy, people get donkalicious with draws all the time. I'm certainly not folding the flop. If an obvious draw hits on the turn, fine - I'm drawing dead, I'll fold. But if it doesn't, I'm sticking it in there.
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#7
11-18-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
[ QUOTE ]
Call. Push a non-2 or 7 turn. Diamond turn is a little tricky. I probably push, but might c/f. [/ QUOTE ] If you are planning to call, and push any non-2/7 board, then you should push now. You are not really eliminating very many hands by calling to push a non-2 or 7 turn. If you think you are a fave in the sidepot (or would have >1/3rd equity there when they both call), then you should push now. I think the moment of truth is right now, and you should push or fold. Nobody is folding now so decide now.
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#8
11-18-2005, 01:42 PM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
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Call. Push a non-2 or 7 turn. Diamond turn is a little tricky. I probably push, but might c/f. [/ QUOTE ] are you high or drunk read it again. CO just cold call an all in and a min raise he reaks of a set or made hand. No way QQ is good here? I would even be inclined to fold AA here....
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#9
11-18-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
I'm high and drunk. But if you think QQ is never good here, you are wrong.
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#10
11-18-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: one pair, insanely huge pot
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I'm high and drunk. But if you think QQ is never good here, you are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] your behind here 98% of the time at most. CO cold called. He has a monster nobody has the stones to cold call there with less than a set . QQ is no good there. Like I said, i'd be highly likly to dump AA. Calling there is just chip spewing.... PS I wanna get whatever potion your taking that makes you assume your ahead here.....
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