The Most Donkeyfied Play I"ve ever made-Please punish me severely

[Slim Pickens]

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I think you're play was fine.

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this may be the most sadistic and cruel response yet

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It wasn't perfect, but really, it's not that bad. You just got all upset because your play wasn't perfect and you lost. They aren't exactly correlated.

[sng-sam]

I've moved up to 33s lately. You should come they are nice. There are guys there that slow play their aces and let you get their with QTs and win monster pots!

[kyro]

Not pushing PF is moronic so I can't tell you what to do on the flop because I never get in that situation.

There is 400 in the pot and you only raise it 150 more with 3 opponents preflop.

Raise a LOT more. You want to get this heads up.

Further, you are only left like 400 and change to bet on the flop with 1k in the pot. This won't take it down.

With a raise and two callers ahead of me, I push this PF. Get one caller, win.

[microbet]

AA plays very well against multiple opponents, but there is no better money than dead money.

Still, if this is your worst play ever, you are doing fine IMO, Sam.

To be results oriented, you would have lost this hand if you would have pushed preflop too. Shortstack with 66 wasn't going away.

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To be results oriented, you would have lost this hand if you would have pushed preflop too. Shortstack with 66 wasn't going away.

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What's your point?? Pushing PF is the infinitely obvious choice here.

EDIT: Yes, we want 66 to call us. And yes, more often than not, the board will not bring a 6. All the more reason to push PF.

[applejuicekid]

This isn't bad. Why does everyone want people to fold when we have the nuts? I don't understand.

ps: I'm pushing preflop as well, but only because losing with aces makes me sad.

[Slim Pickens]

The only reason I'm pushing the flop here rather than betting 1/2 my stack is to guard against the somewhat-unlikely situation where my flop bet gets HU with one player, who is then able to fold after the turn (or river if you're full-blown FPS) misses his flush or straight draw. Look at what ended up in the all-in pot: a flush draw and an inside straight draw along with the made set. Why would you ever want to fold such retarded opponents, who will minraise non-nut flush draws and call all-in with a gutshot, out of a pot? I submit that to all of you who want to push preflop.

[microbet]

Was it really that difficult to understand exactly what I meant?

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Like I said (implied) before I don't think preflop was horrible.

At some point the dead money will be better than live money, no matter how big a dog they are.

Maybe I'll run some numbers later.

Pushing preflop may fold some or all opponents, what would be best? I'll check that out too unless someone (hopefully) beats me to it.

I'm thinking everyone calling your push would be fine, but everyone calling a smallish raise and thus only getting full price from people who hit the flop isn't as good as just picking up the dead money or getting maybe just one caller to a push.