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Old 03-11-2005, 04:17 AM
curtains curtains is offline
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Default Re: Results...


Tough hand....
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:21 AM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Re: QQ against another big stack

I like calling preflop and playing for set value and very weak-tightly otherwise. You raise to 400 preflop, he's only gotta push back a bit over a quarter of the time for you to lose chips, unless you're willing to get all-in or call a re-raise preflop. Why would you want to do that against the other big stack? On the other hand if he's a crazy sort he might come over the top with the other QQ or JJ or AK and you'd lay down and that would be sad. If he gets tricky and flat calls with AA-KK or flat calls with something like JJ and the flop gives you a weaker overpair or makes him a set, you're now more likely to lose your whole stack since the pot has gotten so big. Folding on the flop and losing 400 and the chip lead isn't fun either.
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:08 AM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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Default Re: QQ against another big stack

Stupid question. I am trying to use the Hand Converter you linked to, but am unable to get good results. Specifically, I am getting output without any of the actions at any point in the hand. Here is what it looks like:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t580)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t1620)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t185)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t800)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO (t365)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (t525)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB (t975)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1580)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1370)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Flop: (t150) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>

Turn: (t150) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>

River: (t150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>

Final Pot: t150

That's not even the right outcome! It also seems to indicate that all 9 players checked down to the river. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:21 PM
willie willie is offline
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Default Re: QQ against another big stack

TOP FOR THE AFTERNOON CROWD.

i kind of think this is a tough hand that could be pretty useful to other people.
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:23 PM
Seadood228 Seadood228 is offline
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Default Re: QQ against another big stack

I like this answer, and given what we found out about the villian, perhaps the reraise wouldn't have worked...
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:12 PM
callmedonnie callmedonnie is offline
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Default Re: QQ against another big stack

I had a similar hand a few weeks ago. From your position you don't want limpers (neither did I). But I called. It was a mistake, a raggy flop saw a set and the original raiser had KK. This other stack could have it to, but if you reraise preflop you will find out quicker. You may lose some chips, but you've got plenty and more importantly the decision is easier, much.
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