Tilt, Brilliant, or Boring?

[jayheaps]

3bet flop and lead turn.

[MitchL]

Why not cr flop, lead turn, check call river?

Value bet will work if you are sure he thinks you are on tilt.

[psyduck]

very nice hand except for river.

you bet hoping that UTG raises to protect your hand on the flop.

then you notice fish raising, so you hope to c/r to protect your hand on the turn.

then you bet for value, EXCEPT what hands is the fish going to call you with that you beat? I think I check/call river. you'll be in a nasty spot if he raises river

[vmacosta]

"what hands is the fish going to call you with that you beat?"
It usually doesn't take much to inspire a fish to call on the river with any hand--even A4 and the like. I think what's more important is if fish ever has something we beat in this spot. Some fish never bet the turn without top pair or better. I didn't think this was the case with this fish--or I was on tilt.

[vmacosta]

Hi MitchL,
I like your suggestions on all the streets except the river. After playing my hand so strongly on the flop and turn, as you suggested, why would I all of a sudden stop on the river? I think this lets fish check behind with all hands I beat and bet with most of the hands I cant beat...which means calling his river bet may not be +ev. That's why I elected to bet since I was determined to showdown (unless raised). It's interesting that so many smart posters here have disagreed on the correct line here. Any other posters wish to try?

[MitchL]

Sorry I was a little confused I thought your decription of villian was weak tight. That was referring to original raiser. Since villain is a typical fish, I think you can bet since you would check call anyway and defeat his chances to check behind with A high, or smaller pair. What do you do if he raises river?

[vmacosta]

fold. BTW-fish called river and turned over K4 so mhing.