80/160 AK hand vs Tommy, missed some betst?

[Vincent Lepore]

Don't play against Tommy Angelo!

Vince

[Vincent Lepore]

Oh besides not playing against Tommy you could not have played that hand any better. Bet the turn and Tommy mucks a weaker hand. Check the turn and bet the river and you get him to pay off with his smaller pair. Perfect play. You don't gain anything by betting the turn. Either you are beat or Tommy has 2 outs.

Vince

[andyfox]

Don't you mean a pair of "Z"s?

[mike l.]

"Don't you mean a pair of "Z"s?"

if by Z you mean A, then yes.

sheesh i need to start getting to work here...

[stillbr]

I find it funny (as in haha) that everyone seems to know how Tommy plays. I wonder how often he uses this to his advantage. I'm not trying to diss on anyone with this post.

[mmbt0ne]

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Oh besides not playing against Tommy you could not have played that hand any better. Bet the turn and Tommy mucks a weaker hand. Check the turn and bet the river and you get him to pay off with his smaller pair. Perfect play. You don't gain anything by betting the turn. Either you are beat or Tommy has 2 outs.

Vince

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This was my thinking on the hand too. Tommy seems to be notoriously good at folding when beat. Why not give him his chance at 2 outs, if it means he'll pay off a river bet?

[Boris]

Why are you so concerned about posting hands involving Tommy Angelo?

[edtost]

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Oh besides not playing against Tommy you could not have played that hand any better. Bet the turn and Tommy mucks a weaker hand. Check the turn and bet the river and you get him to pay off with his smaller pair. Perfect play. You don't gain anything by betting the turn. Either you are beat or Tommy has 2 outs.

Vince

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This was my thinking on the hand too. Tommy seems to be notoriously good at folding when beat. Why not give him his chance at 2 outs, if it means he'll pay off a river bet?

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Tommy seems to be notoriously good at folding when beat.

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[mmbt0ne]

You don't think Tommy pays off on the river more often when his opponent checks through the turn? If we assume CDC only puts in one bet on the river since he won't call a check raise, then he only has to get the extra bet out of Tommy, once for every time Tommy draws out for it to be 0 EV. I'll assume that the times Tommy has CDC beat when CDC bets the turn, cancel out with the times Tommy has CDC beat when he checks behind on the turn, and then bets the river. If that made any sense.

Basically, if Tommy's drawing to 2 outs, he hits 1/23 times. You really don't think he pays off a river bet on a blank at least that often after the action so far?

[PokerBob]

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turn: y [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he checks. i hesitate for a second and then check behind.


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you're not a man either, eh? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]