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Old 12-14-2002, 10:30 AM
brad brad is offline
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

you may have overthought this which is what i do all the time.

basically, someone who goes to war on the flop then just calls on the turn is on a draw, perhaps a str/flush draw or flush draw +3 str +pair or something, or perhaps just very aggressively trying for a free (sic) card.

also he could be playing top pair this way but in this situation theres too many factors against it.

i also like the posters who said that a hand that would pay u off would bet the river for you (although if somehow you are against a goofy played AK he might check behind thinking you made the flush but not always)
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Old 12-14-2002, 01:34 PM
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Default technicality. ..

He didn't go 5 bets on a draw, he four-bet and davidross put in the fifth bet. Isn't it true, though, that the betting can't be unlimited raises as long as there was another player in the hand at the start of the betting round? So, if the cap were four-bets, no fifth bet should have been allowed in the first place.
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Old 12-14-2002, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

3 Tens. Bet again.He knows you have 3 Aces by now but he has to call anyway.
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Old 12-14-2002, 11:25 PM
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Default Unlimited as soon as the 3rd player folds

I learned that rule the last time I played there (Brantford Charity Casino). As soon as there are only 2 people left, even in the middle of a betting round it becomes unlimited.
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Old 12-15-2002, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Unlimited as soon as the 3rd player folds

That seems odd, though, to rule it that way. Since one of the reasons for having a cap is to prevent collusion, I could imagine a player five-betting, then the four bettor saying, "My bottom set is no good," and folding. . . I like the no-cap only when the betting round starts more.
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Old 12-15-2002, 03:35 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: technicality. ..

glen,

rules vary but i'll describe the los angeles way.

if the third party player folds before a cap is reached then there is no cap.

OTOH, had the third party been active when the capping raise was put in (in los angeles the cap is three raises), then the betting is capped even if the third party now folds.

in this case the third party player folded before there were three raises so there is no cap.

regards,

rick
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Old 12-15-2002, 03:59 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

Hi David:

It doesn't matter what he has, you should check. The reason for this is that if he has a flush, you save money, and if he has a hand like AT or a smaller set, he should bet it anyway. Also, if he was out of line, he might make a desperation bluff. So if you check the money should still go in, and you should save money those times he does have you beat.

Best wishes,
Mason
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Old 12-15-2002, 04:01 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

If he has TT as you suspect, won't he bet his set if you check?

MM
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Old 12-15-2002, 04:04 AM
Mason Malmuth Mason Malmuth is offline
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

since his flop play narrows down his hands to a set or a big draw

I think this hits the nail on the head.

MM
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Old 12-15-2002, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: 5 bets on the flop, what do you put him on?

Yeah, that became glaringly obvious to me as soon as someone else posted it! [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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