Where's the Line

[Scuba Chuck]

Ken, I was reading a past post of mine that made me laugh. Apparently I will have to eat my words a little...

See my post:
Do you think it's right to call this allin with AKs?

[KenProspero]

Chuck, I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask (remember, I'm the guy who wasn't 100% positive what to do with AQs).

However, rightly or wrongly (and I'd appreciate comments if I'm wrong ... even more if I'm terribly wrong) here's what I'd do.

In low level games, some people are going all-in with real crap, so, heads up, in the majority of cases AKs is at worst a slight dog, and may be a significant favorite to say AJ.

With 2 others, I figure I'm an underdog, but pot odds may yield a +ev.

In these games, once there are 3 or 4 all-ins early, I find that there's a real chance that the winner will be a major fish, and I may be able to out play him/her over the long run anyway, so unless it's AA, KK or (maybe QQ), I tend to stay out. (Once I get it down to 7 players, I figure I have 40-50% chance of finishing ITM). This may be a horrible mistake stastically, though, I'm not sure.

The real question is whether I think I have a better chance wearing the table down or going for it.

Based on the this, with AKs.

If I'm late position, I'd definately go all-in heads up, and probably would go all-in with two. If I think it's going to be 3 or more, I probably step out and watch them demolish each other.

[(my name it is) Sam Hall]

4th hand. I post this because I was holding one of two hands I would have overcalled with, even knowing what (garbage) my opponents were playing. AQ is not the other. Why take
a chance?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t755)
Button (t860)
SB (t785)
<font color="#C00000">BB <font color="#A500AF">(Villain2)</font> (t860)</font>
UTG (t755)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t855)
MP1 (t770)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 <font color="#A500AF">(Villain1)</font> (t785)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t790)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 <font color="#A500AF">(Villain1)</font> calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB <font color="#A500AF">(Villain2)</font> raises to t860 (All-In)</font>, MP2 <font color="#A500AF">(Villain1)</font> calls t770 (All-In), Hero calls t715 (All-In).

Flop: (t2445) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2445) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: (t2445) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2445

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Villain2 has 3c Tc (two pair, eights and fours).
Villain1 has Kd Jc (two pair, kings and eights).
Hero has Ks Kh (full house, kings full of eights).
Outcome: Hero wins t2375. Villain2 wins t70. </font>