77 Turn

[brettbrettr]

Yes. I notice EP 10/20 players do this alot, figuring any LP player who bet a checked round flop has nothing. They normally follow-up with a turn bet, but I think this guy saw that you called and is giving it up. Unless of coure he plans on c/r'ing you again....

[BigBrother]

I like it. Bet/fold, check the river.

I agree that flop c/r is with air enough of the time that staying with your 77 is +EV.

[callmedonnie]

I think you have to bet. Looks like Tag made a move on what is an auto bet coming for you but didn't realize how fishy the fish is.

[ReptileHouse]

This feels like a flush or straight draw from at least one of your opponents. I'd hate to give a free card here.

Another thought is what % of the time do you think the BB folds a weak queen here?

I like bet/fold on the turn with this being the last money you put into the pot.

[DMBFan23]

I definitely bet and definitely fold to any more bets.

[BigEndian]

Here's my dilema with the hand. I almost certainly put the TAG on a PP with a small chance at over-cards or a flush draw. He wanted to try to get it heads-up but isn't going to lead into 2 players again, one who called 2-cold, with a middle pair.

So, I think most of the time you are still way behind unless he is getting out of line.

In the heat of the game I might bet this again, but I would hope I would think about the above.

- Jim

[private joker]

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So, I think most of the time you are still way behind unless he is getting out of line.



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If you think most of the time Hero is way behind, then you should be folding to the flop raise. Checking here is inconsistent with even seeing a turn. I think the flop call says, "I have the best hand and you check-raised me with a weak holding trying to get it heads up, so when you check to me on the turn again, I am going to value bet."

I definitely want to check the river, but not the turn. If I'm checking the turn after being checked to, I'm folding the flop.

[BigEndian]

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If you think most of the time Hero is way behind, then you should be folding to the flop raise.

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This is not true. Until the villain checks the turn, I think the chances of him having overcards or the flush draw are worthy. That hand changed with the turn check imo.

Also, there is a difference between being sure enough to put a value bet in and sure enough to call down.

- Jim

Could be be raising the flush draw or overs. Go to WA/WB mode I think. Bet the turn, fold to any resistance.

[DMBFan23]

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Could be be raising the flush draw or overs. Go to WA/WB mode I think. Bet the turn, fold to any resistance.

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no way are we ever "way ahead" here