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Old 12-21-2005, 05:41 PM
tpir90036 tpir90036 is offline
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oops. sorry about that. that's what i get for trying to jam two hands into the same thread.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:50 PM
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IMO when BB 3 bets, it is usually meaningful. When button 3 bets vs CO raise, it is much less meaningful, it quite often is to get the pot HU, especially given what you mentioned about having a very loose table image. Button 3 betting range could be 88+, AK-AJ,A9s+, KQs or unsuited.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:23 PM
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I cap both hands preflop.

Given that you didn't, I bet/3-bet the flop in hand #1 and drop on the flop in hand #2.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:33 PM
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I cap both hands preflop.

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I would certainly like to hear more about this. Are you capping with AJ to steal on garbage flops? Because I can't imagine AJ is doing very well against this dude's 3-betting range.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:33 AM
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I cap both hands preflop.

Given that you didn't, I bet/3-bet the flop in hand #1 and drop on the flop in hand #2.

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I agree with everything jason has said except I don't like capping preflop in hand 2.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:34 PM
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Wow, where the hell is AggroHushPoster when you need him. Seriously, easy cap both PF. Especially if they think you steal light. As played, c/r the flop in hand 1. It's a lot easier to play from there.
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Old 12-21-2005, 05:40 PM
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c/r the flop in hand 1. It's a lot easier to play from there.

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I hear this a lot too. Unfortunately people are 3-betting that flop with AK and 99 so all I have done is outplay myself into folding the turn.

I am not a fan of any line that involves me folding top pair heads-up.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:34 PM
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If they threebet the flop call down.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:35 PM
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c/r the flop in hand 1. It's a lot easier to play from there.

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I hear this a lot too. Unfortunately people are 3-betting that flop with AK and 99 so all I have done is outplay myself into folding the turn.

I am not a fan of any line that involves me folding top pair heads-up.

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This is likely the problem. I wouldn't even think of folding in hand 1 if you check raise and get 3 bet? You're giving your opponent *way* too much credit here.

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Old 12-22-2005, 12:08 AM
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c/r the flop in hand 1. It's a lot easier to play from there.

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I hear this a lot too. Unfortunately people are 3-betting that flop with AK and 99 so all I have done is outplay myself into folding the turn.

I am not a fan of any line that involves me folding top pair heads-up.

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This is likely the problem. I wouldn't even think of folding in hand 1 if you check raise and get 3 bet? You're giving your opponent *way* too much credit here.

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Believe me, I had no intention of folding... but that is why I am arguing against getting too aggressive because this seems like a pretty standard way ahead/way behind situation, yes/no?
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