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03-24-2005, 01:09 AM
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So what is the real reason?
So they pass some rule about saying the pledge while the guy isn't there, knowing he will raise a stink. Then stir up the masses and get this guy recalled over this non-issue.
So now that he is gone, what is this board going to do or what law are they going to pass, who are they going to screw??? Of course, they will get the full support of the people since they will all joyfully say the pledge before giving somebody the shaft. So what is the real agenda here? 
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#12
03-24-2005, 01:35 AM
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Re: Trustee Recalled for not saying Pledge of Allegiance
fire his ass ASAP.
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#13
03-24-2005, 03:10 AM
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Another sample of that huge sucking sound
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LMAO [/ QUOTE ] You are laughing now but, worry not: The time will come when you will find yourself in some minority or other. It will not be so funny then, trust you me. [ QUOTE ] Instead of standing and just not saying the 2 words, he decided to make a big stink and draw all kinds of attention to himself by not standing, in protest. [/ QUOTE ] The American democracy has the longest and most proud tradition amongst western democracies of supporting and celebrating civil disobedience. Yes, it's the kind of act that oftentimes pisses people off. This is precisely what it's supposed to do, oftentimes. And when you describe with such demeaning and mocking words a lone individual who chooses to place himself in a minority of one and to stand up (or sit down) for his opinion, then you are placing yourself outside the proud heritage of American ideals. It's perverse that you wanna come on as some great patriot. [ QUOTE ] The funny thing is that I heard this guy in a few interviews state that it was his right to not say the pledge. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, as funny as the sound of boots marching in unison.
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#14
03-24-2005, 03:24 AM
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What would this forum do without you ?
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Let the Liberals whine about the Pledge...get involved in legalistic arguements...and continue to alienate more and more moderate voters. They ... feel like they are smart. State after state turns a brilliant shade of crimson. [/ QUOTE ] The avalanche of brilliant insights continues unabated.
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#15
03-24-2005, 04:35 AM
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Consequences, Schmonsequences
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The American democracy has the longest and most proud tradition amongst western democracies of supporting and celebrating civil disobedience. Yes, it's the kind of act that oftentimes pisses people off. [/ QUOTE ] We must always remember that there are consequences, known or unknown, for our actions. This man made a conscious decision to not say the pledge. Fine. But he shouldn't get pissy when people get mad at him for it. If he's willing to be the "lone individual", he should be willing to own up to how his constituents feel about that. Trying to snub the council he sits on as well as the people who voted for him ought to get his ass kicked out.
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#16
03-24-2005, 04:36 AM
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Re: What would this forum do without you ?
Perhaps you have a comprehension problem....
the point of the post is conservatives simply arent as concerned as lefties in regards to appearing brilliant or insightful(or actually correct for that matter) ...no we will settle for a continual electoral bludgeoning of the left, installation of a strict constructionist court system, and a reformation of the out of date entitlement programs. Have a nice day.
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#19
03-24-2005, 12:55 PM
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Re: Trustee Recalled for not saying Pledge of Allegiance
I oppose the Pledge of Allegiance for a reason that nobody is aware of:
We are pledging alleginace to a military/government flag. Unless you are in the military or a government employee, the proper flag to pledge allegiance to is the US Civil Flag. It looks similar to the coast guard flag, but does not have an anchor in the middle or that yellow fringe on the edges.
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#20
03-24-2005, 09:50 PM
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A Man For All Seasons
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We must always remember that there are consequences, known or unknown, for our actions. [/ QUOTE ] I don't believe we should have "unknown consequences" in public life and its rules! What you say applies to life in general. In politics, we have rules. (At least, in theory.) [ QUOTE ] This man made a conscious decision to not say the pledge. If he's willing to be the "lone individual", he should be willing to own up to how his constituents feel about that. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. If indeed his constituents feel that he should be removed from office on the explicit grounds that he did not say the Pledge, then fair game to them! At the same time, the man has every right to raise a stink about how his constituents feel. Because, that way, from his point of view, 1. He is alerting the rest of the people to his constituents' totally un-American disposition, and 2. He is trying to awaken those misled constituents to what he sees as the correct path, and 3. He makes a stand for the minority who voted to keep him in office. You should not be reducing all that to "whining"?. [ QUOTE ] Trying to snub the council he sits on ... ought to get his ass kicked out. [/ QUOTE ] His refusal to say the Pledge as long as the words "under God" are mandatory is an act of completely legitimate expression of personal beliefs, and, since it is going against the grain, also an act of civil disobedience (perfectly legitimate, as well). You choose to reduce it to an act of "snubbing" probably because of the stereotype of "liberals as snobs".
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