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Old 04-12-2005, 12:31 PM
hicherbie hicherbie is offline
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Default Re: KT valuebet?

id bet the flop...and there is no reason not to value bet on the river just like you bet the turn.

if you were raised on that bet i woudlnt think about folding...you are probably beat but its worth an extra BB to find out.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:35 PM
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easy value bet. KT is a lot stronger than K5. don't be results based anyway - K5 would be a decent value bet here too.
nice checkraise.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:35 PM
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Remember, a few hands before I "valuebetted" K5 and he called down HU with KQ without raising on any street.

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He might have you beat. If he does and you check he'll probably bet it right? And you'll call? If he's been passive this long and he's got you beat he's unlikely to raise right? What about all the hands he might have that don't have you beat, will he bet those on the end? Will he call a bet with those? The value bet is predicated on the idea that he'll call more hands where he loses, than bet hands you beat.

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Old 04-12-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: KT valuebet?

This is definitely an instance of where not value betting the river has resulted in the death of a kitten.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: KT valuebet?

Uh, I check raised the flop to thin the field. Also, read my post above about one of them calling down with KQ.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:55 PM
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Uh, I check raised the flop to thin the field. Also, read my post above about one of them calling down with KQ.

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You're very likely to have the best hand on the flop, and you can't be sure someone will bet it for you. I'm betting out.
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:23 PM
KaiShin KaiShin is offline
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Default Re: KT valuebet?

I would have bet all the way in this hand. Use their passiveness against them. If they don't want to raise with TPGK, then when they do raise you can fold it up easily, cause you know you're up against something better than top pair.
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Old 04-12-2005, 01:36 PM
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I would usually bet out the flop. NOTE: I have been mixing this up lately. I've been using oppurtunies like this - where I'm a blind and hit a pretty decent top pair in unraised pot - to checkraise like you did, thinking that a late position player will take a stab and you can knock people out.

I would definitely bet the river.
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