Why haven't I won?

[MLG]

sure, lets say I defend my big blind agains an MP raise with like 108s and the flop comes 8910. Great I have a nice flop for me, but its super tricky. The instinct is to now say I have 2 options, bet or check. Really though I have a lot more. Bet with the intention of calling a raise, bet with the intention of reraising a raise, (maybe even bet with the intention of folding to a raise ewwww). Or you can check with the intention of raising, or check with the intention of calling. Each of those options has more lines to take into account on the turn.

My thinking might go something like this. I'm going to bet out on the flop into the raiser suspecting that there are many hands that I beat which he will either call or raise with (over pairs, overcards with a J, J10) and only a few that are ahead of me (88/99/1010/JQ). If I get called my plan will be to bet any non 4 straight card and to check call the 4 straight, and then check fold the river. If I get raised I will move all-in on the flop.

This is 1 possible line, the best line depends on all sorts of factors at the table. The important thing is thinking about those possibilities when you make your first decision.

[jon_1van]

This is a very good post.

[GtrHtr]

Thanks Mike, your answer was exactly what I was looking for - although my original "I think I understand" only covered about half of your thinking process.

Very keen insight and thanks again.

[CardSharpCook]

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I've never taken a jab at CSC. The one in this thread is the first. Nor do I have a 'running feud' with him. You watch too many soap operas. But you made me laugh.

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I don't think I have any more 'running fueds'. Do I? hmm, lets see if I can start one. YTRAIN YOU SUCK!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

CSC

[IHateKeithSmart]

Nice post mlg. This reminded me of the hand I busted out of the super with last night. Didn't have my head in the game, steal gone bad, and didn't think it through. Next thing you know, I'm out with a bit of a dazed feeling.

I need to work on my concentration and thought process when playing online. I don't have the problem live, since there are less distractions (which probably explains why I tend to finish higher live).

[Sluss]

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I don't think I have any more 'running fueds'. Do I? hmm, lets see if I can start one. YTRAIN YOU SUCK!!!

CSC

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The upside is it seems that whoever CSC is having a running fued with gets really hot and starts rolling off some great finishes.

That said will you start a fued with me too. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]