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Old 10-21-2005, 06:42 PM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Default Re: Short-handed play

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This is a routine laydown. Very routine.

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Old 10-21-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Short-handed play

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Call.

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Wrong answer. Want another go?
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:10 PM
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Villian is pushing a ton of hands and many of them hero has dominated. I didn't run the numbers on how large of a favorite hero is over X hand range but when you do that and look @ the ICM I would say it turns out to be +EV to call. I may be wrong but I don't think so. I'll run it later when I'm on my own computer.

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Remember ICM is not going to account for the short stack who can't pay the blinds. Your calling range here should be AA only. If big stack shows you A2 you still can't call here.

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Actually it does to an extent, the short stack's EV will be very, very low. This is why it's a blatant fold. ICM will for sure say this is a fold, I guaran-damn-tee it. I could run the maths but really it's not even worth it in this situation.
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Short-handed play

I ran it anyway, just for a laugh.

EV Fold: 0.3112
EV Call and Win: 0.4330
EV Call and Lose: 0

x * 0.4330 = 0.3112 + 0.005 (edge)

x = 0.3162 / 0.4330 = 0.73 = Must be a 73% favourite to call

Even if you don't want any edge at all you need to be a 71.9% favourite over his range.

Erm, this is never going to happen no matter what he's pushing with, unless you can somehow see his cards and know he has Ax or Kx. Sadly, this isn't possible, as pairs, QJ, and well.. any two at all are going to be in his range as well.
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Uppercut Uppercut is offline
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Given the shortstack and the fact that I only have Ace high at this point, I fold this hand approximately 100% of the time in this particular situation.
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:32 PM
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Does this mean that you should push anything from the button?
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Old 10-21-2005, 10:52 PM
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Does this mean that you should push anything from the button?

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And this is the key to bubble play with good people.
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