TT multiway

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If you will call a river raise then I think it was a mistake to bet the river in the first place.

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Really? I think I'm winning very often here and will be raised somewhat rarely.

I agree we're ahead on the river often. But if we get raised, I think we're ahead almost never.

Not even 1 in 14 times? I can see someone being dumb with A8 or something often enough... Maybe you're right, but I really hate letting go of such a big pot.

[rnmike17602]

If you'd feel comfortable laying down to a raise, then bet the river. Otherwise, check/call is good. What you don't want to do is bet the river and call a raise.

If you're behind, both check/call and bet/fold are the same result: you lose an extra bet.

If you're ahead, check/call risks missing bets from hands like lower pairs that may call, and bet/fold risks an inferior hand pushing you out of the pot with a raise.

You've got to gauge how often an inferior hand raises on the river versus it checking all the way through to see if the relative gain of 1-3BB versus a relative loss of up to 12-15BB is worth it.

EDIT: Guess I better give a straight answer: if you are very comfortable with your loose-passive read, bet/fold the river. If you were in the pot with a tricky or aggressive player check/call.

[shant]

Enough of this the pot is so big I have to call stuff. It's a 12BB pot multiway, it's not so so big. I'd bet this river and fold to a raise, and I really don't like overcalling the river after checking unless the CO is some sort of donk.

And really this whole the pot is so big I'd have to call a river raise from a loose-passive player on a paired board with middle pair stuff is getting out of hand.

[testaaja]

*grunch* I'd check/call or check/raise flop and depending where the bet comes try to thin the field on turn (or flop). You can't really drop anyone out on the flop by betting and your hand is vulnerable to many cards. You got the flush redraw so there is some value if a heart comes on turn but usually I think if the fourth heart drops in you are going to be dominated here.