jamming quads.

[chuddo]

results:

when i push villian gets disgusted and goes into the tank. starts talking about how:
"there is no hand you can have here.",
"well i know KQs isn't even possible",
"trying to push me off AK?"
"pick up more straight outs with QJ?".

finally says "i can beat a big draw, and if im right im holding your outs. deuce of diamonds dealer, i call."

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] no good.

confused solid player convinces himself he is being semi-bluffed and makes a big call.

[ezratei]

I agree with checking the turn here ... even if the villian thinks your turn push is weird here, he's still going to think a bit before putting it all it.

AZK ... what I disagree on is acting like you're thinking about calling with a draw ... as soon as you furrow your brow or take a little extra time i think that most players will think "oh, he's putting on a show, he must have a 10" and they'll shut down AK.

If I was going to act at all it would be to throw my chips in the middle as quick as possible. I think this would do a better job of convincing the villian that you have a weak A or a super strong draw.

Ez

[spahk]

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results:
"pick up more straight outs with QJ?".


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sweet.

[arkose]

agreed...

u described your opponent as the type who is not going to make this call unless he has AA...

if you really feel the need to jam, i think i even prefer reraising all-in on the flop to what you did...i think you're letting the results cloud your judgement a bit.......*unless* you thought this player in particular might call you, in which case, its fine

[chuddo]

i did not say the guy was a nut-peddling nit.

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i lead all-in for ~ $950.

thoughts?

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To me, this is just foolish. The only way you will get paid off is if he has aces, which seems to be unlikely due to his raise on the flop. I like a weaker lead or a check-raise. Even though you dont have position on him, you can get more value doing a weaker lead or a check-raise.

[The Bear]

Against good opponents, this play only works if you tend to get tricky with turn stop 'n go bluffs/semi-bluffs. If you don't, it's ridiculously obvious that you have a big hand and are looking for a call.

Of course, that is all very obvious. So I'll just say I don't like it, since you probably don't bluff/semi-bluff in that spot often enough to balance a play like this.

[chuddo]

the fact so many of you would only call in his spot with Aces full is testament to how effective this line is with hands other than quads.

[chuddo]

in addition the fact he could make this call is one of the reasons i consider him a tough opponent, as well as the fact he has been killing this game.

[BobboFitos]

your read was bad.

he put you on the only hand he beats.

this is not good poker (on his part)