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Old 08-31-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

I was thinking the same thing about graduating from "no set no bet." Especially when you're in position, you can take the pot a fair amount.
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

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Oh and,

3) How the [censored] do I play mid pairs? With great great caution?

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Call raises as long as they are less than 5% of the smallest stack between you and the raiser, consider calling them if they are between 5-10%, don't call if they are over 10%. Hit your set, get the money in, don't hit your set, fold. Actually they are the easiest to play. If its been limped to you i'd limp with them...if it's folded to you in late position i'll raise with them.

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great info. This thread has gone slightly off-topic but just one more question.

lets say I get 77-55 in EP/MP on a pretty pf-passive table. What should I do if I'm first in?

In my experience it is harder to get paid off if I hit a set in an unraised pot, so it doesn't seem that the implied odds are there for limping.

Of course I could raise first in, but for me that usually means trouble. OOP, overcards, callingstations etc etc.

Any hints on how / when to move on from set-farming?
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Old 09-01-2005, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

On these limits people dont understand re-raises with AK so they automatically put you on a VERY big hand, KK or AA.

Ive had great luck getting people to fold jacks and tens with low cards after a reraise preflop, simply because they dont get why anyone would re-raise with AK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

So i'd say: OOP or not, put a standard size bet out there. If you get a call and miss the turn, id say its a check fold situation.

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Old 08-31-2005, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

Yep, that's a continuation bet (cb). Just make it the same size as when you bet a hand that has hit the flop.

Whether you should make continuation bets or not depends mostly on your opponent. Against some you CB every time, against others you CB the turn as well, cause that's where they usually fold, against some you almost never CB, cause they will get tricky and raise you on the flop.

As to 99, KQs - kq isn't very fun to play if you are up against a utg raise. 99 though should definately be played. Both reraising and calling is ok in my book. It's not that good if the first guy reraises your raise though, so if you think he's likely to, a call might be better.

I'd be glad to hear opinions on my advice here...
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

Well OP asked in regards to their being a limper, not a raiser.

Personally I would probably make it 5 bb's to go with KQs at least. If there is a preflop raise, I would either fold (to 4+bbs), or re-raise (anything less)...although if I had reads on opponent to tell me otherwise, I would react accordingly.

99 Im not so sure about. If I was raising it would be 5 or 6 bb's, but I dont think I would be raising on the CO with it to be honest. If limper calls, any over card is a scare card so unless you are hoping for a rag flop, you cant expect to get away with it as conveniantely as one may wish.
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Old 08-31-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Noob post; How do you play a missed re-raised pf AK on the flop?

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1) Whats a continuation bet? Just a pot or 2/3 pot bet after a previous raise was called?

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Yeah, basically. Generally bet about 2/3rds of the pot. The smaller % of the pot you bet, the less often it has to work. 2/3rds is about right.

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2) What do I do with a hand like 99 or KQs with one limper, me in the CO preflop? Re-raise, or just limp after?

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Either one is fine. Generally I'd raise so that I can take the pot down on the flop w/ a continuation bet, but I don't think limping behind would be considered a leak at all.
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