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[Arnfinn Madsen]

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Which of those hands will also raise a turn lead? 3betting seems way out of line to me.

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Yes, I agree. If 3-betting the turn, I think that even against this villain we cross a line where any further bets put in, will be done when we have the worst hand.

if the villain raises the turn, i think we can reduce his range to:
hands that beat us:
aa (1 combo)
jj (1 combo)
99 (3 combos)

hands we beat:
a9 (6 combos)
ak (8 combos)
aq (8 combos)

even if he only raises his big aces half the time, our 3bet should show a profit. he could also be getting out of line with a royal draw or j9. remember that this is an aggressive player 3betting a cutoff open-raise from the button. you are giving him too much credit for a set.

[RunDownHouse]

I really, really think you have to discount all the ace combos. Decent players aren't raising this turn with AK or AQ: maniacs are. I could see those combos being much more likely if it was A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]... but the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] being on the board ruins all of those.

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remember that this is an aggressive player 3betting a cutoff open-raise from the button.

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... and then capping the flop, and then raising the turn...
His stats seem to indicate that he's thinking, although we don't know how much. Its hard without any real reads, but if a 30/20 shows this much strength, 3betting the turn is just asking for trouble.

[mscags]

I called down and he showed me 99

Thanks for the thoughts and more appreciated

Scags

[Alobar]

I like everything RDH said in this thread