Every Option seems bad - Page 2

bigt439 · #11 10-05-2005, 01:41 AM

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At the very least you are up against 2 overcards.

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That is a ridiculous statement.

beeyjay · #12 10-05-2005, 01:56 AM

with the lack of fe, i think you have to view this as calling a push, like ogre mentioned calling his horrible - what are you gonna do see a flop with a couple overcards and have an easier decision - and with that said I think folding to a push here is really quite easy/correct.

#13 10-05-2005, 02:01 AM

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At the very least you are up against 2 overcards

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No people do this with 66 55 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 all too often to think like this. I would push and then if he has a higher pocket pair than me, I would suck out a winning set.

Folding isn't that much worse than pushing in my opinion

bigt439 · #14 10-05-2005, 02:04 AM

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folding to a push here is really quite easy/correct.

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And you explain SNGPT saying you gain 1.5% EV how?

MegaBet · #15 10-05-2005, 10:38 AM

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At the very least you are up against 2 overcards.

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That is a ridiculous statement.

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ok...now tell my why?

MegaBet · #16 10-05-2005, 10:39 AM

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At the very least you are up against 2 overcards

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No people do this with 66 55 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 all too often to think like this. I would push and then if he has a higher pocket pair than me, I would suck out a winning set.

Folding isn't that much worse than pushing in my opinion

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Of course people do this with 55, 66, A3 etc. I could also list all the other hands they would do this with whereby they have at least 2 overcards to your 7s, but that would take a while.

Nicholasp27 · #17 10-05-2005, 10:41 AM

please tell me how u got sngpt to tell you +1.5% when there is a bettor in front of you that didn't go all in or put you all in...sngpt doesn't normally support that kind of analysis

MegaBet · #18 10-05-2005, 10:41 AM

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... fold... seriously...?

he's +1.5% against 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs... you're telling me the guy isn't pushing at least that? Not to mention you have some very small FE... but seriously, wtf?

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You have a serious leak in your game.

bigt439 · #19 10-05-2005, 11:00 AM

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... fold... seriously...?

he's +1.5% against 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs... you're telling me the guy isn't pushing at least that? Not to mention you have some very small FE... but seriously, wtf?

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You have a serious leak in your game.

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You hurt my head. I thought you had me on ignore, it's really easier that way.

"At the very least you are up against 2 overcards"

That is a ridiculous statement.

"ok...now tell my why?"

"Of course people do this with 55, 66, A3 etc."

Looks like you figured it out yourself.

Now getting back to my serious leak, would you like to tell me how this is a leak given the +1.5% EV SGNPT calculates of calling an allin given the fairly tight range I gave him? As clever as your one sentence responses are, they don't help anyone learn anything if they are correct and they are wrong with an alarmingly high frequency.

bigt439 · #20 10-05-2005, 11:01 AM

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please tell me how u got sngpt to tell you +1.5% when there is a bettor in front of you that didn't go all in or put you all in...sngpt doesn't normally support that kind of analysis

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No it doesn't, but if you just assume the guy went all-in then you can do the calculation. This probably underestimates your EV a tiny bit because of the tiny FE you have.