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Old 07-17-2005, 07:03 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

id fold here pretty fast. what do you think he has...??
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Old 07-17-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

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Hero bets $50 into a $116 pot, BB pushes for about $400 more, and hero has him covered.

Easy fold?

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Did you suspect he had the fourth 10 at any point? If so, a check-call to a bet on the end might have been in order. Perhaps this is tight-weak, but this is a pretty scary situation.

It might get tricky if he smells weakness and just goes all-in on the end. At least at that point you don't have enough invested to gamble with your whole stack.
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Old 07-17-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

Is 12 your standard raise PF?
How do you play post-flop after betting 12?
If 12 is the standard raise and you are aggressive post-flop, it's very possible this guy has QQ, KK (or even AA) and thinks he's trapping you knowing that you're not betting Quads. Off-off chance he was drawing at AK and thought he could make a move at you on the river. It's also very possible he has a Ten. Is this a guy who makes moves? You posted nothing about how you or he plays, and how he thinks you might play.

Without knowing more information, I lay this hand down.
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Old 07-17-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

if you think he can fold, why would you ever push all-in on the river? you're contradicting yourself
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

I think this is a tough fold, but a fold. Obviously, I keep an eye out on villain...
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

what about checking the turn and check/calling the river to keep the pot smaller?
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

given the way the hand was played he should fold. .i would have played it differently; the way i would have played would have involved getting my stack in the middle on the river, although in not the same fashion as the way this hand was played.
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Old 07-18-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

for those advocating a fold, what hand do you think BB is calling with preflop? does he normally call the intial $12 raise with A10, J10s, 910s?

i have a very time folding the second nuts here, as i think he holds KK/QQ far more often than quad 10's
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

Maybe I'm retarded, but I think you should call here. Your bets all seem kind of weak (esp river) and maybe he is just trying to push you off a hand. I dont see how you can fold, at least I wouldn't. I would have made larger bets all along, maybe pot size.
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Old 07-18-2005, 07:35 AM
Jocke_F Jocke_F is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 AA vs coldcaller

why would he push with KK and QQ as he has to know hero would higly unlikely call with anything but KK, AA or a ten. I think its a ten or a stone cold bluff, but I dont think its a bluff often enough to make it profitable to call.
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