NYC transit strike is on: Who do you blame?

[cokehead]

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This sucks. On a side note: the MTA is run by a bunch of fumbling idiots. NYC subways = horrible service.

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name a more reliable mass transit system in America that is as extensive as NYC's and runs 24/7/365 (strike notwithstanding) ... oh, that's right: there is none.

the MTA organization itself might suck but our subways and buses most certainly do not.

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If you expanded your criteria to a world wide subway system, then NYC's ain't that great anymore. Brazil for example has some very reliable systems that are actually clean too. Many places in europe too. Its always amusing when foreigners from poor countries come to NYC and are disgusted by the subways...

[ononimo]

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This sucks. On a side note: the MTA is run by a bunch of fumbling idiots. NYC subways = horrible service.

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name a more reliable mass transit system in America that is as extensive as NYC's and runs 24/7/365 (strike notwithstanding) ... oh, that's right: there is none.

the MTA organization itself might suck but our subways and buses most certainly do not.

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If you expanded your criteria to a world wide subway system, then NYC's ain't that great anymore. Brazil for example has some very reliable systems that are actually clean too. Many places in europe too. Its always amusing when foreigners from poor countries come to NYC and are disgusted by the subways...

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my challenge was specifically limited to the US because that was the comparison that was most relevant. since i live here and not overseas, being the best in the US is good enough for me.

i'm also sure that those foreigners from poor countries would likely trade their country's standard of living for ours, subways notwithstanding.

[pokerdirty]

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This sucks. On a side note: the MTA is run by a bunch of fumbling idiots. NYC subways = horrible service.

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name a more reliable mass transit system in America that is as extensive as NYC's and runs 24/7/365 (strike notwithstanding) ... oh, that's right: there is none.

the MTA organization itself might suck but our subways and buses most certainly do not.

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If you expanded your criteria to a world wide subway system, then NYC's ain't that great anymore. Brazil for example has some very reliable systems that are actually clean too. Many places in europe too. Its always amusing when foreigners from poor countries come to NYC and are disgusted by the subways...

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my challenge was specifically limited to the US because that was the comparison that was most relevant. since i live here and not overseas, being the best in the US is good enough for me.

i'm also sure that those foreigners from poor countries would likely trade their country's standard of living for ours, subways notwithstanding.

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you guys are all idiots.

[VarlosZ]

Transit workers have a hard job, and I don't begrudge them their high wage and job security. However, the MTA's demands would be considered very generous by the standards of the private sector, and the city has to get its finances in order soon, as pension costs will soon be skyrocketing. There are some very necessary evils on the horizon, and small steps such as the MTA is trying to take are some of the mildest imaginable.

The strike is illegal for good reason. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people will not be able to get to school or work, and Christmas shopping -- already a nightmare in this city -- just got a lot harder. Traffic will be a nightmare all over; I hope no one needs an ambulance today.

Let's throw rocks.

[Evan]

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Transit workers have a hard job

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Maybe some do, but I think as a general statement I disagree.

[VarlosZ]

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Transit workers have a hard job

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Maybe some do, but I think as a general statement I disagree.

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You don't think driving a bus or riding in underground tunnels for 8 hours at a time is more taxing than, say, working in an office?

Lots of jobs are tougher, but lots of jobs are easier, too. But whatever; perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that they work hard.

[dblgutshot]

It's easy to take the transit service for granted in a large city. Completely shut down is just nuts.

[Evan]

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You don't think driving a bus or riding in underground tunnels for 8 hours at a time is more taxing than, say, working in an office?

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Driving a bus is, it's probably one of the worst jobs I can think of. Driving (or whatever the proper verb is) a subway doesn't seem so bad. I'm sure it sucks, but most jobs that require little education suck. That doesn't make it hard though, just bad. You should also clarify what type of office, but I guess this gets the point across.

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Lots of jobs are tougher, but lots of jobs are easier, too. But whatever; perhaps a better way of phrasing it is that they work hard.

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I'm thinking that booth guy has got one of the easiest jobs in the world. It may be one of the most boring, but it's easy as hell. My guess would be that there's more of them than anyone else, but that could be way off.

[VarlosZ]

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Driving (or whatever the proper verb is) a subway doesn't seem so bad. I'm sure it sucks, but most jobs that require little education suck. That doesn't make it hard though, just bad.

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It would seem to me that doing something bad for 30 years is a lot harder than doing something hard, but not bad (maybe construction work? I have no idea.).

If something is hard and bad, well . . . let's just just say that sanitation workers deserve every penny they get and then some.

[Macdaddy Warsaw]

I would imagine the easiest job is sitting in "the booth". I would imagine even driving a train is more difficult than you would imagine thanks to the threat of jumpers.

What I'm saying is that it probably IS difficult, but their salary is commensurate (probably more than commensurate) with the job's difficulty.