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bad beetz · #11 12-06-2002, 05:11 PM

I was feeling really out of place (I'm too young, and my income was under 9 figures, no knowledge of fine wines, I think I had a shirt with Deniro's mo-hawked head from "Taxi Driver" on.) ntil a rastafarian with dreads, a huge top hat, mega-bloodshot eyes, REEKING of weed, sat down next to me. I think he drew some attention away from me.

Ted Geisel · #12 12-07-2002, 07:55 PM

If you are not joking, my advise to you is do not chase food comps in Las Vegas ... by and large they are not worth the time, compared to picking the best game to sit in. The EV difference will buy you a much better meal.

For example, players complain about the Bellagio's virtual no-comp policy, forgetting the casino sank $1.3 billion into the ground with the express purpose of luring in gamblers looking for entertainment. What more do you want from an operator than "gamblers looking for entertainment" to play against .... Would you prefer playing amongest tightwads looking for a free buffet ticket ???

Ted Geisel · #13 12-07-2002, 08:01 PM

Puhleeze, at least 60% of the players in any given 4-8 game at the Bellagio are locals. Believe me, they are not a fine wine set, well-dressed, or cultured. They also could care less about the wardrobes you described, they just want your money.

The attention you perceived was that akind to that afforded a cow in an abatoir

Terry · #14 12-08-2002, 02:12 PM

If you are fairly conservativly dressed and can be rather bold, watch the BJ pit for the dealers going on break (every 20 minutes). Follow them. Many of them will be going to the Employee Cafeteria.

Just act like you know what you're doing, get your food, and sit down alone. Should anyone question you (unlikely), just sort of mumble something like "Oh, I just keep an eye on things" and they'll assume you work surveillance. If the person is wearing a name tag, make it "Oh, I see you every day, Jim." Shuts 'em up quick.

This will be best pulled off during "normal" business hours, 9 to 5, when all the office staffs, etc., are around... the non-uniformed people...you won't stand out as a stranger, although swing shift should be busy enough in a larger place to provide plenty of cover. With a couple thousand or more employees around, new faces are very common.

Chow down on the buffet quality food and delight in your little adventure.

Oh, and pay attention on the way in. Those back of house hallways are a real maze... you want to be able to find your way back out. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Ted Geisel · #15 12-08-2002, 03:46 PM

LOL, This post is great, if you are looking for free room and board from Clark County for the week.

If you actually tried this and got away with it, great for you. However, I think your risk/reward analysis needs fine tuning. If you try it and get caught, do not try and lie your way out if it ... that's the worst you could do. Just show ignorance about where you are, ask "Isn't this the buffet area ?", and look really stupid.

Dynasty · #16 12-08-2002, 06:19 PM

Did you just tell him that lying was the worst thing he could do and then immediately give him your preffered lie to get out of trouble?

pauly2x · #17 12-09-2002, 12:40 AM

A buddy of mine were at the Mandalay Bay last summer, and trying to get a comp there was like pulling teeth. I had a players card from the casino and I asked the guy up front if they tracked play, etc. He said, no, only for a poker rate for the rooms (though they were giving away small handheld organizers for locals who played a bunch of hours during the month). So after about seven or eight hours there, my buddy tells me he got a coupon for the buffet (which, incidentally is fantastic). I go up to the desk and ask for one. He tells me if I haven't signed in he can't give me one. I told him that I had been playing for nearly eight hours and have seen every dealer go all the way around the room about four times. Finally, after getting a little peeved he gives me the lousy coupon. I'm normally not such a whore for free stuff, but it's not like they don't give stuff like that away. If it was their policy not to, that's one thing, but don't try and tell me I haven't been sitting there playing all day long. About an hour later, my buddy decides he's done playing for the day and goes to the washroom and to cash out. He comes back to tell me where he's going to be in the casino so I can find him when I'm finished. One of the cardroom guys asks him for an ID when he walks back in. My buddy says, are you kidding me, I've been playing here for the last eight hours and you want to card me now when I'm not even playing? (not in a smart arse way, but more in amusement) We were 24, but apparently looked we were 12, because he got carded again later that night in the same casino. It was about 5 a.m. and we were passing the time playing roulette at the Mandalay, waiting for the 10 a.m. tournament at the Luxor. This woman was sitting at the table playing roulette and pounding down drinks (by that time of the night/morning, we had already sobered up and were about to switch to coffee to snatch a third wind). So we play a couple of spins, and then this woman demands to see his ID. She says she works for the NGC. My buddy looks at the dealer (or whatever you call the roulette table person), and the dealer says, yeah, she's serious. So he shows her the ID and all is OK. It just kind of struck me as funny (funny strange) that somebody working in a casino for the NGC would be drunk off her rear end and gambling at 5 a.m. But maybe it's just me. I told him I would have asked for her credentials first.

Terry · #18 12-09-2002, 12:54 PM

Yeah, forget about lying. In any Vegas casino, anywhere, anytime, if two guys with guns "ask" you to leave, just do it... quickly and quietly.

Although my post was intended as a bit of a spoof on the Free Lunch crowd, there really isn't any reason it wouldn't work. I've eaten in many help's halls over the years while visiting friends at casinos at which I didn't work and have never been questioned, nor have I ever questioned any of the new faces at the places I did work, except for occasionally wondering "Who ARE all these people?"

I put the risk of actually getting arrested at very near zero. With 2000 to 4000 employees each spending three or more breaks a day in the cafeteria, unrecognized faces are the norm.

There is no chance that a real surveillance person will sit down with you. The snitches sit alone.

Hat Trick · #19 12-09-2002, 09:24 PM

You should have asked for a badge, NGC employees are forbiden from gambling in ANY WAY in Nevada. They are not even allowed to go to a bingo hall. Juast an FYI from the Travel Channel. [img]/forums/images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

Ted Geisel · #20 12-10-2002, 09:36 AM

No, I advised him not to do it. If he went ahead anyway and was caught/challenged, to 1. show ignorance, 2. ask if it was the buffet, and 3. look stupid. Foe anyone foolish enough to try this scam, all three would be pretty natural.

The stupidest thing to do would be to impersonate a casino employee in a restricted area. In contrast, being a stupid tourist creates less of a legal liability.