F#%!@ EMPIRE POKER!

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Do you do anything but whine?..Seriously you have cried and cried about empire closing accounts and such for a week now. You remind me of a 4 year old that got his sucker taken away from him. Are you that bad of a poker player that you need these bonuses to keep a bankroll? I dont even use bonuses anymore as they actually bring my hourly $ DOWN.

Enough wasting my typing on this troll. Maybe 1 day you will be a winning player and wont have to worry about playing for bonuses. On second thought......

[kapw7]

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I played the Empire bonus and cashed out just after the 1000th raked hand. The money is in my account. I payed ~$120 in rake.
There must be a more serious reason for freezing an account.

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At anything less than 3/6, full ring, I doubt any TAG generates more rake than the bonus, even at 10x. Now, play 3/6 or higher, or the 1/2 6Max, and you pay more rake per hand than you make in bonus. Shall I do the math, or would that have no chance of changing your conclusion?

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No you are right. This is from 1/2 6max. Very fast bonus clearing and very profitable. Imagine that my rakeback adds 1.1 BB/100 to my win rate.
Me? A TAG? I am offended [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Finwe]

I am glad they are cracking down on bonus whores. That leaves more bonuses and perks for real players. Imagine trying to pull that [censored] with a comp system at a live casino. They would laugh in your face when you whined about getting kicked out. Seriously, learn how to play poker, then post here. Post your bonus whore whining to a bonus whore forum, not a poker forum.

Finwe

[moondogg]

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I am glad they are cracking down on bonus whores. That leaves more bonuses and perks for real players. Imagine trying to pull that [censored] with a comp system at a live casino. They would laugh in your face when you whined about getting kicked out. Seriously, learn how to play poker, then post here. Post your bonus whore whining to a bonus whore forum, not a poker forum.

Finwe

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You're in a bonus forum. If you don't like it, go back to the poker forums.

[El Barto]

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You're in a bonus forum. If you don't like it, go back to the poker forums.

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This is not a bonus forum, it's an internet gambling forum. Bonuses are just one small part of that.

Having said that, please keep the bonus info coming everybody. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[pzhon]

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They froze my account saying I only show up when they offer bonuses, WELL WHAT THE hell is the point of a bonus, to get people to play on your site!!!

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On a site that has already achieved critical mass like Party, the point of a bonus is to get people to pay much more rake than they receive in bonuses. (Empire does not keep 100% of the rake.) You would do that if you were playing at higher levels, or at times other than when bonuses were offered.

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I dont even use bonuses anymore as they actually bring my hourly $ DOWN.

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So let me get this straight. Because you are being given free money at some point during your play, it causes your hourly $ rate to go DOWN?

So for you, taking a bonus offer is a losing proposition and is to be avoided?

This is all very interesting. Please go in to more detail.

There is a bonus coming up at Paradise, but I'll hold off on it until I hear back from you. I wouldn't want to lose money there by taking the bonus.

This is a real eye opener for me. I'm surprised I didn't find out about this bonus scam earlier. Like a fool, I've been taking bonus offers for two years now!

I can't even imagine how much I've lost in hourly $ rate because of those damn fuking bonuses!

Now I'm starting to get real mad. Is there any way you could make a sticky post about the damaging hourly $ win rate bonuses cause? This info needs to be shared and passed on to everyone who is thinking about taking another bonus.

Thanks again, I will look forward to reading more details on this subject.

[Finwe]

I apologize, I had no idea I was in a bonus whore forum.

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[Nato76]

Yeah I guess we should all stop chasing bonuses.

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Yeah I guess we should all stop chasing bonuses.

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Before we give up on our bonuses, I want to understand more fully how it actually makes our hourly $ rate lower. I have been experimenting by playing on my girlfriends AP account. She had no bonus pending so I figured I'd play 100 hands there and see what happens. It turned out I lost 5 bucks after 100 raked hands. I was wondering now why getting the $10 in bonus I would have earned would lower my hourly $ rate even more? It just seems like I would have ended up ahead somehow if I had got the bonus.

Very confusing.