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Old 11-22-2005, 03:43 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: Weak Flush

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It is a 2-part question. The second part is much more important as things do not end with the 3-bet...

You are infected with the 1-line simpleton virus, best get a check-up. Penicillin no good.

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Oh, sorry, I kick him in the nuts when he caps. then I bet/call the river.


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i can think of very few scenarios (really only if you feel like he is capping for a free showdown--rare) where bet-call is correct on the river after your opponent capped the turn

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I think a straight, Ah + flush draw, two pair will occasionally check behind but call. I think a straight might raise a river bet(So we get 2 anyway).

Ahh I reread your post. You want to go for a river cr if he caps. Yeah I'm fine with that. I think sometime we lose value from hands that check behind. But I may have been influenced by Naphand's posting tells which make me think he loses this hand.

Krishan
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Old 11-22-2005, 03:44 PM
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Yes but your first response did not answer it! Which question were you thinking of... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Skim reading...tsk tsk

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But I may have been influenced by Naphand's posting tells which make me think he loses this hand.

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Uh?

What is about my read that suggests I lost the hand? Or is it the fact I posted a read at all that makes you believe this. You know what I think about non-read stat-only posts... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Cackle...hoooowl.
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:50 PM
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You posted the angry icon in your title. And instead of presenting us with the real question you gave us a softie which everyone knows the answer to and asked the real question seperately. Makes me think you lost.

Krishan
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Old 11-22-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Weak Flush

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WTF does a 40/20 limp in with 4-way?

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J9, T8, K7, J7, QT?
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Old 11-22-2005, 05:02 PM
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3-bet and check-raise a non-heart or check-call a heart river if he caps

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I like that thought best. I think the most important thing out of this entire thread, however, is to 3bet the turn.
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Old 11-23-2005, 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Weak Flush

I think the Turn 3-bet is pretty obvious, which is why I asked about what happens if it gets capped...

I wanted people to think ahead with a plan, rather than just post for one street. Usually makes for more intresting discussion, though Krishan clearly tried to spoil the party... [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

This line (CR non-heart and chk-call a 4th heart) is my favoured one too.

Thanks for input people.

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I 3-bet the Turn, Villain caps.
River is a 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I check, villain checks behind and shows T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MHING

So the check-call-4th-soot line also has some value by getting a free SD against another feeble-flush.
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:36 AM
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So the check-call-4th-soot line also has some value by getting a free SD against another feeble-flush.

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if by feeble you mean the 3rd nuts
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:53 AM
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3-bet and check-raise a non-heart or check-call a heart river if he caps

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c/r a non-heart and fold to a 3bet?
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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3-bet and check-raise a non-heart or check-call a heart river if he caps

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c/r a non-heart and fold to a 3bet?

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putting in a lot of bets with the 4th nuts and then folding for one more bet is not usually the best way to beat a lot
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:22 AM
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3-bet and check-raise a non-heart or check-call a heart river if he caps

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c/r a non-heart and fold to a 3bet?

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putting in a lot of bets with the 4th nuts and then folding for one more bet is not usually the best way to beat a lot

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Like with J9s? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
But seriously, I think when you have to pay 3bets for a SD here vs. a higher flush, isn't it better to just bet/call which also makes sure he doesn't check behind a set or 2pair.
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