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#11
08-10-2005, 07:31 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
The issue with the hands as described last year was that they took the player's words as to what they folded, and then matched up the footage. So the fact that he said it doens't mean much.
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#12
08-10-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
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The issue with the hands as described last year was that they took the player's words as to what they folded, and then matched up the footage. So the fact that he said it doens't mean much. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, they could have had footage of him claiming to fold the set of TT and then thought: ooh, that will make an interesting hand! they do have a track record of this stuff, you know.
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#13
08-10-2005, 07:58 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
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[ QUOTE ] The issue with the hands as described last year was that they took the player's words as to what they folded, and then matched up the footage. So the fact that he said it doens't mean much. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, they could have had footage of him claiming to fold the set of TT and then thought: ooh, that will make an interesting hand! they do have a track record of this stuff, you know. [/ QUOTE ] There was a hand last year where Josh Arieh nonchalantly laid down two pair to a modest bet from Marcel Luske's set of aces. That hand was almost definitely faked.
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#14
08-10-2005, 08:52 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The issue with the hands as described last year was that they took the player's words as to what they folded, and then matched up the footage. So the fact that he said it doens't mean much. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, they could have had footage of him claiming to fold the set of TT and then thought: ooh, that will make an interesting hand! they do have a track record of this stuff, you know. [/ QUOTE ] There was a hand last year where Josh Arieh nonchalantly laid down two pair to a modest bet from Marcel Luske's set of aces. That hand was almost definitely faked. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, that was probably faked. that was also at a table with no pocket cams, as well. listen, this TT happened for real. he told Pham and Ivey what he folded and they showed the TT.. ESPN is not going that far to fake hands. I can see Lisandro's laydown being faked because we never got to see the second T and ESPN never did either..
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#15
08-10-2005, 09:05 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
It wasn't faked at all! The guy said to Ivey and the others that he had trip 10s, and they didn't believe him [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#16
08-10-2005, 09:08 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
I talked to Tony D during a cash game at the Bike earlier this year, and he confirmed that he did lay down trip Js to Phil Hellmuth as seen on the 2003 ESPN coverage of the Main Event.
I have no idea about Tommy Reed's laydown, other than what I saw on TV. I also would not be surprised if Jeffrey Lisandro's laydown of TT was a misread by the ESPN editors, since it appears they didn't get that good of a look at his cards. However, I don't know if that would qualify as faking a hand or not. They showed us his cards, at least as well as they were visible, and then told us it was TT. Heck, I couldn't even make out one T, let alone both cards. later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)
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#17
08-10-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The issue with the hands as described last year was that they took the player's words as to what they folded, and then matched up the footage. So the fact that he said it doens't mean much. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, they could have had footage of him claiming to fold the set of TT and then thought: ooh, that will make an interesting hand! they do have a track record of this stuff, you know. [/ QUOTE ] There was a hand last year where Josh Arieh nonchalantly laid down two pair to a modest bet from Marcel Luske's set of aces. That hand was almost definitely faked. [/ QUOTE ] this hand wasn't faked. I asked arieh about this hand on fulltilt and he said he thought for 2 minutes or so before laying down his hand. Also, he said that Marcel raised pf (obv) and that the board was K(or Q) A T 9. So he's behind alot of hands right there that Marcel could easily have.
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#18
08-10-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: ESPN faked Set of Tens Laydown
nice first post
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#20
08-10-2005, 11:44 PM
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[ QUOTE ] nice first post [/ QUOTE ] Nice 15th post. [/ QUOTE ] Nice 243rd post.
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