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#12
07-18-2005, 11:58 AM
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Re: $200+15
"well, seeing as i am a skeptical bugger..."
I would be skeptical here too. My guess is that he is betting the flop with 2 over cards. Without your preflop raise he could have almost anything. “The flop is fairly ragged and rainbow with one high card being a J - would he raise with AJ? “ preflop of course he would, he knows that you don’t have AQ or AK and you will likely throw away small pocket pairs to any flop. your hand history stops at the flop but he would raise or bet out AJ regardless. "so lets take command of the pot raise (if i thought this why not re raise? cause i want to keep the pot small and use skill to take it). More and more i see people doing this move." Good Idea this will quickly and inexpensively let you know where you are at. It would have been safer and less expensive to raise preflop however 
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#13
07-18-2005, 11:58 AM
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Re: $200+15
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No set no bet. Discipline sucks sometimes. SAM [/ QUOTE ] is no one going to say put in a bet? How disastarous is this play then? would like to hear from the sng gods as well please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] David
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#14
07-18-2005, 12:09 PM
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Re: $200+15
Probe bets suck unless you know PF raiser will lay down his overs to your bet. If he will its a perfect flop to throw one out there as its completely drawless.
I check and see what develops because I like to have some information before throwing my chips in the middle.
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#15
07-18-2005, 12:13 PM
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Re: $200+15
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It would have been safer and less expensive to raise preflop however [/ QUOTE ] Hmm, in certain conditions i would agree. I think that we need to look at position as well: In early position at this stage you have no idea how many callers there are going to be. By taking charge pre flop i feel inclined to continuation bet which is not a good idea with bad position, overcards and too many people who have called the raise. With callers i feel inclined to check fold the flop. However by limping in EP you get to see how many people are playing and also their strength. I wanted to keep the pot small and take it on the flop. (another strategy i often do is re-raise all in if i know they are are good thinking player - as in they think i got a monster!!) In late position i agree that raising is the right move. David
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#16
07-18-2005, 01:29 PM
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Re: $200+15
I check and fold in this situation EVERY time. You were going for a set, missed, and now have nothing besides an underpair.
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#17
07-18-2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: $200+15
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[ QUOTE ] No set no bet. Discipline sucks sometimes. SAM [/ QUOTE ] is no one going to say put in a bet? How disastarous is this play then? would like to hear from the sng gods as well please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] David [/ QUOTE ] OK, you asked for it. Check/fold. You are really not that strong.
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#18
07-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: $200+15
Very easy fold. Quick reasoning: 3 others in, PFR has you beat around half the time depending on his range, the other 2 may or may not have a jack, you'll have to bet 150+ chips to get anywhere and they won't fold 40% of the time combined.
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