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Old 12-07-2005, 01:35 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Raise flop for free card?

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I like the pfr

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Why?
I dont have them available to me now, but I know I've seen the percentages vs 5 opponents that someone will flop a J-A. I cant believe it's less than 20%.

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yeah this is why i don't raise AKs. it's only ace high, and people will flop pairs sooooooooo often on you.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:42 PM
Thebram Thebram is offline
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Default Re: Raise flop for free card?

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I like the pfr

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Why?
I dont have them available to me now, but I know I've seen the percentages vs 5 opponents that someone will flop a J-A. I cant believe it's less than 20%.

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yeah this is why i don't raise AKs. it's only ace high, and people will flop pairs sooooooooo often on you.

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You coulda just said, "Bram maybe you should run pokerstove with TT and see that even against 5 opponents, your equity is greater than 20%."
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:45 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: Raise flop for free card?

I think our two two-gap BDSDs, our closing the action, and absolute position for the rest of the hand push this towards a peel in what is sure to be a big pot.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:41 PM
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First or second I like the raise, but not with that many limpers.

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Wow. When I'm President, it's going to be a felony to not raise AA-TT preflop in an unraised pot. Smile for your Post Office picture...
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:49 PM
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grunch

easy flop fold

call isnt great, raise is ridiculous
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:04 PM
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Ugh, muck this. Your T outs may as well have herpes given the straight possibilities they complete.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Raise flop for free card?

Depending on my opponents I either call or fold the flop. Generally I'm folding the turn UI.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:46 PM
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This is a clear fold. Two overcards to your TT? If you do catch that set what makes you think one opponent didn't limp with KJo? Play these tens against better flops.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:49 PM
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*grunch*

I can understand peeling this flop, but I would likely fold most turn cards except a T, even then I would be wary of the straight.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:36 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Fold or raise this flop, I lean to fold. Since you were the preflop aggressor, a raise here might get you a free card, but it will not fold ANYBODY that's already called one, and you're going to have to show down the best hand to win.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, you're so far from best hand right now that the light from the best hand won't reach yours for about 500 years.
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