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Old 03-10-2005, 03:40 PM
Daniel Hoerr Daniel Hoerr is offline
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Old 03-10-2005, 07:25 PM
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You're correct. It was my first post after viewing a lot of the material posted on this website. And why did I finally register and record my opinion on a topic that isn't that big of a deal? When I watched the show, I thought going to the final table, when not a participant, showed a lack of class. It bothered me when I watched it. I'll stand by that. It bugged me enough that when I read the topic thread here I was moved to put in my opinion that it bothered me.
There is no question that television, and especially the hole card cameras, have created the incredible boom in poker. Do you want poker to be like wrestling? If it's ok for this guy to come to the table, will you think it's "good television" the next time some one decides to crash the game? A streaker? Use your imagination. You can dumb it down to broaden the appeal and please the masses. It doesn't make it right. Popular television is a fragile thing. Tinker with it too much and the audience dwindles. The high-profile players that play poker on tour are like rock stars now in terms of visiblity and potential earnings. This is a good thing going that should get even better. My opinion is that last night's stunt, ill-timed, offered nothing good to WPT. You're entitled to your opinion, but you won't change mine.
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Old 03-10-2005, 07:58 PM
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I have to agree with slamduncan21. I felt Paul Phillips actions were inappropriate and childish. He admitted to having one too many drinks in his system and was egged on by friends in the crowd. However, he should have showed some self-restraint. Lee just lost a huge pot, not only in monetary value, but that started a huge momentum swing in Doyle's favor. Lee was counting out how many chips he owed Doyle and I appreciated how he kept timid though you could tell he was annoyed by Paul's antics.

I'm not trying to be a stickler, poker is a fun game and I'm all for fun characters but there's a time and a place for that. Poking fun at a man after a crucial hand, potentially worth over a million dollars, was uncalled for.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:02 PM
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He admitted to having one too many drinks in his system and was egged on by friends in the crowd. However, he should have showed some self-restraint.

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Those two sentences don't usually blend that well. Do you see why?

That aside, I still think the show was better as a whole because of what Paul did, and the only thing to consider is that Lee didn't have a problem with it. Since he didn't and it was funny and it made for better TV ... bravo, Paul, bravo.


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Old 03-10-2005, 09:24 PM
slamduncan21 slamduncan21 is offline
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Barron, you seem like a bright guy and I don't want to split hairs with you over small things. Maybe I should drive on to another topic. But, I disagree when you say "the only thing to consider is that Lee didn't have a problem with it". After the fact, we've heard explanations about too much to drink, egged on, wasn't bothered by it.
Without any background, a viewer is left to make a decision based on what he sees. As I was watching the program, I saw another poker player go to a table area where he didn't belong. You thought it was funny and added to the telecast. I didn't. Each viewer will see it from his own
perspective and judge accordingly. The bottom line is that I will still watch next week when, as the promos said, "Shana sure looks hot in that dress."
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:34 PM
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Results oriented, Barron.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:07 PM
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I had a friend once who had a really expensive parrot; it was from some special breed, and it could talk and knew how to [censored] in a bowl and whatnot. Anyway, one day my friend threw a party. Tons of people showed up. Everyone was drinking and having a good time. People were in the pool, barbecueing, the whole nine. Well this one [censored], blasted out of his mind, he decides that it's a good idea to start messing with the parrot. So he takes it out of the cage and starts carrying out around, swirling it in circles, etc. My buddy, the parrot's owner, is getting really pissed now, telling him how special the parrot is and everything. The guy puts the parrot's head in his mouth and bites its head off. It was awful. Now he's on trial for animal cruelty and will probably spend a few years in prison. What's the point? I can't remember. Something about the stupid things we do when we're drunk...

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God how awful. He just bit the parrot's head off like that? If I was the owner, I would have murdered that guy on the spot. I would find the nearest bludgeon and beat his ass to death. That's just terrible.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:28 PM
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First - I didn't see the incident nor have I read PP's blog-entry on it so can't comment directly on what happened.


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That's a great analogy between not showing people who run on the field in baseball games to what Phillips did last night.

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Actually...no it isn't.
Paul Phillips is a famous player who finished 7th in the tourney this year and 2nd last year.

If a baseball player or manager come out of the dug-out to argue a call or play some bizarre mid-game joke on an umpire or player then why wouldn't the TV show it.


I don't really know what Paul's behavior was like...but these poker-telecasts have captured players behaving badly after a couple of drinks MANY times.

If Mike Caro comes out of the crowd to act weird and sit with Mike and Vince or if Daniel Negreneau starts making choking motions in the crowd than it's up to the WPT whether they want to show it or not.

since they are fairly famous poker celebrities acting rather outrageously I would think this is something they wouldn't want to shy away from showing.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:35 PM
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Results oriented, Barron.

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