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Old 08-27-2004, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

I should have said one might as well say . . . I meant the proverbial "you." Sorry.
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Old 08-27-2004, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

it's all good, how bout them Yankees?
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:06 AM
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They're basically as good as the bad teams right now, playing close games and either pulling them out in the 9th or losing them in the 8th. They couldn't compete with Minnesota or the Angels, winning only one game in six on a fluky bad performance by Joe Nathan.

How bout them Dodgers and them Adrian Beltre. Yankees ought to get him next year, play him at 3rd, move A-Rod back to short, Jeter to center field, and Williams and Lofton to pinch-hitter/back-up outfielder status. And a couple of starting pitchers who aren't forty years old might help too.
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:21 AM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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I really think the yankees are setting themselves up for a major implosion. Their lack of yound players will greatly hurt them and I don't think they can continue to buy whoever they want.
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:27 AM
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Default Strength of protests will lead to uneasiness of undecideds

The stronger those anti-RNC protests will get in New York City, the more the electoral public is going to feel uneasy about the anti-Bush crowd, into which the Kerry-Edrards ticket is lumped, subconsciously.

The choice of venue could be a masterstroke of genius from the part of the Dubya campaign! NYC has always been a Democratic stronghold and its citizens are not exactly known for their mild demeanor! If anything, the Bush campaign would love to have on TV bottles thrown, windows smashed, police rioting, fires, overturned cars, the whole chaotic circus.

This would scare off a lot of undecideds and incidentally identify, in the minds of undecideds, the anti-Bush people with all those radicals and the out-of-control elements who despise America. (Flags will be burned.) In other words, the theme of the convention will implicitly be, the Dems are the real terrorists.

Which means that the Dems in charge of Kerry's campaign should be discreetly but forcefully helping out the police efforts!
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Old 08-27-2004, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Strength of protests will lead to uneasiness of undecideds

The Demo Convention in 68 got way out of hand because mayor Richard J. Daley had a "nobody f*cks with me or my city" attitude...which is pretty much the standard operating procedure for the Daley Machine. His son is a couple of notches more mild, but he still runs the city with an "I'm untouchable" attitude (ironically, he is pretty much untouchable). For a current example of this...see his ongoing feud with the Cubs and Tribune Co.


NYC shouldn't get out of hand if they show some restraint and just let these people act like the wackjobs they are.
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Old 08-27-2004, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

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"distracting the police is terrorism"

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When the millionaire talking head is as dumb as a cow you have to worry less about terrorists than the millions who take him seriously.
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Old 08-27-2004, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

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There are reports of some anarchists who are going to douse themselves with gun powder to cause security alarms to go crazy. We also hear some of these people may roll marbles underneath the hooves of police horses. Any of that stuff is terrorism and the federal government should take over the prosecution

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I wouldn't call it terrorism. However, I do agree with the theme in O'Reilly's talking points this type of behavior should be prosecuted(not necessarily by the feds) and people responsible punished severely.

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Old 08-27-2004, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

You don't get it. Do you see any suggestion that the 30,000-man NYPD can't cope with another convention, or that the NYPD will legalize all manner of crime, including the crippling of their horses? Obviously, danger to the public isn't the issue he's trying to raise.

O'Reilly is trying to exploit terrorism hysteria to make protest and civil disobedience against his side a federal offense. Most likely, he wants the government to label left-wing protestors "terrorists" or "enemy combatants" so that they can be thrown into some kind of offshore detention hole indefinitely for trivial offenses such as "distracting" the police.

O'Reilly is just another fascist windbag traditionally associated with the Birchers, Minutemen and other right-wing loons. When I was a kid you'd see them in parks with white socks, 1920's haricuts and purple mimeographed flyers yelling you about how civil rights = communism. On the Murdoch channel, however, he gets the time and production values to make him a celebrity among a certain subculture of TV imbeciles.
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:48 AM
Stu Pidasso Stu Pidasso is offline
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Default Re: O\'Reilly on Potential RNC protestors

Algers

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Do you see any suggestion that the 30,000-man NYPD can't cope with another convention, or that the NYPD will legalize all manner of crime, including the crippling of their horses?

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No I don't. O'Reilly suggest the complete opposite.

O'reilly

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But here in New York, that's not going to happen. Protestors who break the law will not be treated kindly by the cops and prosecutors.

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Algers

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Most likely, he wants the government to label left-wing protestors "terrorists" or "enemy combatants" so that they can be thrown into some kind of offshore detention hole indefinitely for trivial offenses such as "distracting" the police.


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O'reilly

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Instead of being slapped on the wrist, violent and damage causing protestors should be slapped with federal prison time.

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Chris, your confusing violent and damage cuasing with left-wing protestors. Contrary to popular belief, they are not interchangable phrases. Also, O'Reilly never said anything about offshore detention holes - that was just you imagining "facts" that would bolster your case.


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