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Old 09-06-2005, 12:17 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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It hinges on whether he bets KQ.

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Would you bet with KQ?

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I would have 3-bet the turn with KQ.

In this spot, yeah I would bet the river and fold to a c/r.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:20 AM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: calling this sexy now?

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It hinges on whether he bets KQ.

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dont forget all the times hes hell bent on calling down with his jacks

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I included JJ. Also included all 77-QQ minus 99. It's just quick math in my head but I'm pretty sure it depends on if he bets KQ/KJs. He doesn't have to call a raise with them, just bet

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Im confused by this...
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:23 AM
ALL1N ALL1N is offline
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Default Re: calling this sexy now?

Terrible spot for it. The only hands this works against are AQh and AJh, which if he's decent he won't have bet the turn with anyway.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:29 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Damn it, I forgot to consider the A in hero's hand when calculating combos. Scratch my contributions. Betting is much better.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: calling this sexy now?

You guys don't think he will valuebet KQ or KJ? He will definitely bet if he has an ace in his hand. I don't think he calls a river bet with QQ-77. How many hands would raise me when I CR'd the flush? AA sometimes, but I think that's it.
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Old 09-06-2005, 01:08 AM
TazQ TazQ is offline
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Default Re: calling this sexy now?

Yes, he'll value bet KQ/KJ but he is folding it to a CR.

I think you collect a bet ~100% if you just bet out from KQ/KJ. Check, and it risks being checked through. Check, and he bets, he folds it to the CR. You gain 1 bet but risked it being checked behind. Plus, if he has a strong hand you check raise he calls, but if you bet he raises you 3-bet.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:05 AM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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You guys don't think he will valuebet KQ or KJ?

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nope. he was already scared of the flush, now with the ace out there too he just wants to see a showdown, whether he has any rational reason to fear the ace or not.

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I don't think he calls a river bet with QQ-77.

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I think he does with TT-QQ, probably not with 77 and 88.
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