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Old 10-31-2005, 11:37 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: Evolving from weak-tightie (lc)

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yeah, but what if you raise and someone calls behind you (unless youre only raising from the button, this will happen, often)

tables turn

however i always thought reverse implied odds was like chasing flush draws on a paired board (where you could be dead), etc.
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:38 AM
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I used to be LAG-ish until I realized that the internet is full of donkeys. Have gone into TAG mode again.
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:38 AM
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You seem to have neglected to mention he can also check/call flop and then lead the turn (with or without a hand).
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:44 AM
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well, being OOP is not great, but usually I go for a cont. bet

If he raises I can usually fold feeling good about it. He committed 30% of his stack, and I only had to put in 10%. If I flopped big I have a good shot at stacking him. If I feel he's bluffing me too much, I will call with a lot of draws if I don't think he'll fire a 2nd barrel much, or I'll call with monsters if he fire's 2nd barrel's a fair amoutn then check-raise the turn, to which he'll have most of his stack in.

But most importantly, by the time he starts to narrow down my hand range it's too late, while at the same time I can get away from missed flops relativly cheaply
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:45 AM
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You seem to have neglected to mention he can also check/call flop and then lead the turn (with or without a hand).

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okay, similar to a flop check-raise. He has committed 30% of his stack to my 10%, and if I flopped big I can usually stack him. His line makes my turn decision quite easy with most of my holdings
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Evolving from weak-tightie (lc)

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well, being OOP is not great, but usually I go for a cont. bet

If he raises I can usually fold feeling good about it. He committed 30% of his stack, and I only had to put in 10%. If I flopped big I have a good shot at stacking him. If I feel he's bluffing me too much, I will call with a lot of draws if I don't think he'll fire a 2nd barrel much, or I'll call with monsters if he fire's 2nd barrel's a fair amoutn then check-raise the turn, to which he'll have most of his stack in.

But most importantly, by the time he starts to narrow down my hand range it's too late, while at the same time I can get away from missed flops relativly cheaply

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yea, but the more common line i'm seeing is they call the cont. bet, i check turn, they check behind, im stuck on the river with a marginal holding

of course this is all very very read based, but just saying how important position really is when playing LAG. i open up tons of stuff from LP, and almost anything from Button, but still play fairly tight in EP (for 6-max, that is)

and i switched to stars too where playing aggressive nets me lots of pots
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:53 AM
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well yeah, that's a good spot to call with a draw if he is like that. However if your opponent mixes it up on the turn (ie he is goot) then he is using his position well, and he starts putting you in the difficult situations.

Nothin much you can do to avoid this but play your best pokah
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Evolving from weak-tightie (lc)

I am confused if you are LAG or TAG right now. You can be agressive withought being LAG.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:10 PM
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I am confused if you are LAG or TAG right now. You can be agressive withought being LAG.

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Last week I was loose-bad.
This week I am tight-bad.
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:15 PM
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we are on the dealing end, which is very very good

Here's what I mean. I open-raise to 3.5 BB's preflop (which I do more and more these days) and the big blind calls.

He checks, I bet 5.5 BB's into a 7.5 BB pot. At this point, he can only put me on any suited connector, any suited ace, any pocket pair and a few other hands. In other words, he has no idea what I have.

But, he's sick of me betting all the time and wants to take a stand, what can he do? Well, he can call and check the turn, which is great for me. If I have a draw to beat his top pair I can take a free card. If not, I can value bet my well-conceled monster and sometimes bluff with air if I feel like it. He's in a real bad spot if he's set on calling me down with top pair.

Or, he can check-raise the flop. This commits about 30% of his stack, while I have only committed 10% of my stack. If I flopped air, I can make an easy decision and fold. If I flopped something good, it's pretty easy to stack him at this point.

If he wants to lead at the flop, I will have to pay attention to him and get an idea of what he leads at the flop with. Once I have a read on him, I can call with appropriate hands (which results on me having postion, and him always having to commit more money in before me) or I can raise, putting about 30% of my stack in. If he wants to continue with the hand, he is pretty much committed to going all in, where as I can still fold if I want to.

The key to all this is if your hand range is wide, he has a real hard time trying to figure out how to play his hand, no board looks entirely safe to him

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v good post.
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