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Old 11-28-2005, 01:44 AM
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I would have played the hand a lot faster. I would have probably raised the flop, especially if the button is so loose. I sure as hell would have bet the turn if I just called on the flop. I mean there were some draws on the flop so I think you can get some action.

Also if you play it faster you'd have a better idea where you're at by the river imo.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:46 AM
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I think not betting the turn is a pretty significant mistake
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:54 AM
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I think not betting the turn is a pretty significant mistake

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i can understand the logic behind it. the pot is tiny, the sb has pretty much thrown up a white flag, and the button probably doesnt have anything either. theres not much to call with on that board, so hell risk a free card in exchange for someone taking a stab for him

the main reason id bet there (and raise the flop too) is because i take shots at lots of pots and id like to show down that i play trips the same. there are some players who always check in unraised pots with a big hand and often take stabs with nothing. its not hard for even a novice hand reader to see this
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:01 AM
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you make some good points, but I think sb is calling more than you think he is. I could see his flop bet/turn check as being an OESD or flush draw and he doesn't want to get raised on the turn. I also think the poor playing button will call with a lot of hands that he wouldn't bet (include A high hands that he didn't raise preflop b/c his PFR is 5).

I also agree that this should be a fold despite hero's failure to define his hand. The combination of a loose passive raising (I don't think he raises a king too often there) and a nonmaniac sb check/3betting doesn't seem to bode well.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: I Used The Whole Time Clock On This River

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I think not betting the turn is a pretty significant mistake

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me too. I forgot that in my original reply. I play these types of hands fast unless I expect my opponents to fold overcards too easily, in which case I play everything fast.

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Old 11-28-2005, 02:12 AM
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:48 AM
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It's a call for me, though I expect to grimace now and then as a better 5 or pockets 77 shows up. The way it was played I don't really put anyone on a 5, nor KK or QQ. I'd guess most of the time someone hit top pair with the K and someone else made 2-pair.

If it were 3 bets to me cold, I'd probably fold. But at 2 bets I just can't fold trips here.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:57 AM
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It's a call for me, though I expect to grimace now and then as a better 5 or pockets 77 shows up.

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A5 is the only better 5.
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:04 AM
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Call, not close? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:17 AM
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Well I would have bet the turn here, but see as you didn't I think you need to fold this river. I think someone has you outkicked or is full.
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