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Re: DERB
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What you ignore Dcifir, is that as goofy and internetty as this is- each forum does creat a sense of community. I think that's not as strong here as in micro, HUSH, SS, but it does exist. [/ QUOTE ] totally true, and it's hanging on by a thread. crap like this is stomping on it - the idea of the action being taken moreso than the target of the action. |
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Re: DERB
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and i'll start: having played with DERB for a long time now, from experience I'd say there is virtually no question he is a very strong winning player. I have noticed that DERB's VPIP has dropped and his AF has remained constant from the 30/60 game Ive played with him to the higher limit ones. DERB used to be 29 or 30vpip and has dropped a %point to 27-28. DERB still, however, seems to call down with hands that just can't win. ever. I think he does this to prevent ever getting bluffed out of the pot. but eventually he should adjust if he is as good of a player as the rest of his game indicates. -Barron [/ QUOTE ] The only part of his game that appears to be good is his pre-flop play, because post-flop it looks like he missed Hand-Reading 101. It's bet-bet-bet and raise-raise-raise and hope everyone folds, or, call down or keep raising when hopelessly behind and lose a ton of bets. No big deal though, he'll then get back when they go back to fold-fold-fold. I think you could give a monkey his starting hand chart, tell him to bet when checked to and never to fold any pair, and he could have similar success - at least that's my suspicion anyway. There is no arguing that it is very effective, I just can't bring myself to start 3 betting hands that I know are way, way, way behind the range of the guy opening. It seems to work though, you just have to have the cajones to play that way. |
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Re: DERB
I hate to be the village idiot but what is derb's full handle?
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Re: DERB
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i know you think you're acting in the forum's best interest here, which is a good thing in spirit. in practice it's terrible, and you're completely misusing your mod privileges. trying to shoehorn and direct discussions into an actively governed thread here is 100% lame. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not quite sure why everyone's giving him such a hard time. I guess it's all a matter of philosophy but I believe that all the terrible threads should be deleted ASAP. the DERB thread may not be bad, but I can understand him not wanting it to block other decent threads |
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Re: DERB
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I hate to be the village idiot but what is derb's full handle? [/ QUOTE ] It used to be Lojzka but I think he changed it. |
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Re: DERB
Loijzka plays like Erik1234.
-or-- Loijzka plays like steve95 --or--- Loijzka plays like MaxMuller discuss. |
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Re: DERB
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Loijzka plays like Erik1234. -or-- Loijzka plays like steve95 --or--- Loijzka plays like MaxMuller discuss. [/ QUOTE ] what % of the people on this forum have even played a single hand against any of these people? |
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Re: DERB
that's a good way to foster nice discussion.
of the players that have, I bet more than a few have an interesting opinion. It is my opinion that there are some similarities, and all 4 players are big winner in my opinino, there are those that will say steve is a fish, I would argue they are from the DERB is a fish camp. were you in that camp? should I go through the big thread and quote to point out the people that correctly analyzed his ability? |
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Re: DERB
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that's a good way to foster nice discussion. of the players that have, I bet more than a few have an interesting opinion. It is my opinion that there are some similarities, and all 4 players are big winner in my opinino, there are those that will say steve is a fish, I would argue they are from the DERB is a fish camp. were you in that camp? should I go through the big thread and quote to point out the people that correctly analyzed his ability? [/ QUOTE ] I was in the camp that said DERB was probably a loser against the solid players who recognize him for what he is, but that he destroys the weak players to a much greater degree than a more straightforward player like myself might. |
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Re: DERB
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It is my opinion that there are some similarities, and all 4 players are big winner in my opinino, there are those that will say steve is a fish, I would argue they are from the DERB is a fish camp. [/ QUOTE ] Stox, Don't take my comments about DERB to indicate that i believe he is a fish. He obviously is a huge winner, however I do believe that his style, in theory, should be relatively easy to emulate. The strength of his game seems to be his pre-flop/post-flop ground and pound combination. It does not appear to be terribly "skillful" though as he seems to make many post-flop errors when he is obviously behind. I'm also amazed at how low his ASB is relative to his PFR %. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on his play and why you think it works so well. Thanks, Nigel |
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