reraising with AJ - Page 2

#1 12-29-2005, 06:27 PM

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I would definitely NOT raise preflop. We're raising out of position into a pot of 4 players, what do we hope to accomplish? Since our hand doesn't have that large of an edge preflop, buliding the pot doesn't seem like a great idea, especially with our relative position. If we do flop a pair, we'd like to keep the pot small here IMO. If it was suited, I'd definitely raise. In this situation I think a call is more than warranted.

And if I'm wrong, please correct me. What is our edge against 4 limpers?

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This is my thought on the matter aswell...

#2 12-29-2005, 06:47 PM

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And if I'm wrong, please correct me. What is our edge against 4 limpers?

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25.5% equity against four players playing
88-66,ATs-A4s,KJs-K8s,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,AJo-A9o,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
Thats 20% minus AA-99, AKs-AJs, AKo-AQo.
They are probably looser then that but it doesnt affect the equity to any bigger extent.

Still thats a decent edge. And even so postflop we will know where we are standing so we will always get the most of it. Against the normal 1/2 players i say its an easy raise.

#3 12-29-2005, 06:52 PM

OOP reduces edge..

#4 12-29-2005, 06:55 PM

True, but something says me these guys arent the hottest tags on the planet so we are probably going to get paid when we hit and maybe get a free card when we miss.

And nevertheless its still a decent edge.

#5 12-29-2005, 09:14 PM

Men i call preflop as it is impossible for me to eliminate people by raising and then i prefer just call you make costly weak draws to remain in the hand and make Ax that are almost dead stay in the hand..thats all least what i think...
What i cant understand very well is something everybody seems to be clear: beting the flop with so many people in the hand Is it only to gain information??

zephed · #6 12-30-2005, 07:53 PM

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Men i call preflop as it is impossible for me to eliminate people by raising and then i prefer just call you make costly weak draws to remain in the hand and make Ax that are almost dead stay in the hand..thats all least what i think...
What i cant understand very well is something everybody seems to be clear: beting the flop with so many people in the hand Is it only to gain information??

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That's not why we usually raise pf in loose games. We do it for value. Everytime you get called by weak hands, you make money.

No, you bet the flop because you are VERY likely to have the best hand and VERY likely to get called by a worse hand. You are out of position, so you should tend to bet so that you don't give out a free card.