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Old 12-05-2005, 01:53 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

Very few people will bluff check raise a small bet into a small multiway pot on the river. If you have a good image you can just bet the pot on the river when checked to with those holdings and expect to be called by worse.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

Just as a clarification, I started thinking about this after reading this thread. In that case, there had been a bet, a call, a huge raise, and two calls on the flop. It was checked around on the turn, then checked to hero on the river.

So, to simplify, I am not talking about a scenario where it gets checked all the way around. There has to have been SOME betting on earlier streets, both so that the pot is worth taking in said manner, and because you'd need to be able to come up with some sort of legit read on your opponent(s).
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

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Let's say you're down to the river and have a hand that's pretty good but not invincible (like 2 pair, maybe trips, or even 1 high pair).

Given the action, it's pretty clear that no one has anything, and you've built a LAGgish image, where people are aware that you can bluff, and will try to buy pots with position.

You're in position and it gets checked to you. Does it work to make a tiny bet, hoping for someone to try and bluff raise you off your hand?

Thinking about it, this may have value, but I'm not sure. If you make a reasonably sized bet, everyone is going to fold. So if you bet small (like 1/5th of the pot or so), someone could take a shot at you? Even if they have a HUGE hand, they probably won't make a HUGE checkraise either, because they don't think your hand is that good, and want to give you the chance to call with something weakish.

Is this just crazy enough to work?

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Ever since I read this I put it into practice. It works extremely well. In this case it means unless I'm trying to put a play on a specific opponent, which is not often, then I'm going to put in a bet that is sized to take down the pot and I will fold to a check-raise.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

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Old 12-05-2005, 03:42 PM
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Link doesn't work.

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Copied and pasted from MS Word copy. Try this one copied from the Archives.

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I checked this link before posting and this should take you right there.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

bet pot. make it look like a bluff and hope to get called by a weaker hand. I have almost never seen anyone check raise when someone on the end bets a small bet.

Pretend you are in EP and have mid pair. Why on earth would someone who could just check it at the end bet 1/5 pot? its too small for a bluff. its too small for value.

At least if u bet pot ur opponent has to decide if its a bluff or value bet. If you can make it look like a missed flush draw or something thats even better.

The only time I could ever consider betting a small ammount is against an uber donkey that reraises ANY small bet. I would also have to read that he doesn't have a hand and would fold if I potted it to him so they only way to get money in is to induce a bluff.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Does a tiny baiting river bet ever work?

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You're in position and it gets checked to you. Does it work to make a tiny bet, hoping for someone to try and bluff raise you off your hand?

Is this just crazy enough to work?

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In my exprience no, not many ppl check/raise to re-steal on the river with air. It just doesn't happen very often at all. And when u do get CR big, u might even be beat. Bad idea.
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