Watch Waxie Move Up - Page 2

Isura · #1 12-15-2005, 10:07 PM

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Actually, I want to end it by folding if he re-raises and I want him to just call if he has a hand < AA-KK. If an A or K falls on the flop, I am usually ahead. I think villian grossley misplayed his hand and wouldn't have had the opporunity if I hadn't offered a lot of chances for him to make mistakes.

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Your thought process in this hand is not very clear. So you want to bloat the pot preflop against TT-QQ, waste more money and fold to a push against KK-AA. All this when you will only hit top pair about 35% of the time on the flop...

Edit: and QQ-TT are not going to payoff that often on an Axx or Akx or Kxx flop anyways.

einbert · #2 12-15-2005, 10:01 PM

How do you move up to $25 NL?

Were you playing play money tables before this or what?

Andrew Fletcher · #3 12-15-2005, 10:04 PM

10NL at Stars. If you really want the total story of my poker journey, PM me and I'll tell you. It's pretty interesting/funny.

#4 12-15-2005, 10:05 PM

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How do you move up to $25 NL?

Were you playing play money tables before this or what?

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I laughed.

Anyways, if your going to 3-bet this preflop, raise it much more than that. I prefer just calling the initial raise.

Morrek · #5 12-15-2005, 10:43 PM

This is 25nl, villain reraising pre and calling a re-re-raise means he has 77+ or any K or A, unless he's "bluffing" or "gambling" with 27o or whatever. However, if you want to be able to beat opponents on higher levels you will have to start giving your villains a little more credit than what is standard on 25nl. On higher levels they will for instance not pay you off(atleast mostly not) on A or K high flops with TT-QQ as they do all the time on 25nl.
I realize that you'll probably win alot of the time in these kinds of hands but it's just not good play

yvesaint · #6 12-15-2005, 10:48 PM

3-bet pf is ok depending on the opponent, but the amount sucks. it sounds to me that youre raising purely for information.

you also say you release to a 4-bet. if i held AA in villains hands, i would not 4-bet here at all. why would i want to possibly lose you? plus, id love to let you continue being the aggressor, especially w/me in position

Andrew Fletcher · #7 12-16-2005, 01:19 AM

Would the typical players at 25NL do that? I don't think so.

I agree with you about the optiomal way to play AA in this situation, but I don't think most 25NL players are thinking that way when they have "weapons of mass destruction." They can't wait to put their chips in the middle.

FYI, I would never make that 3-bet against a player that I had a read on as being a tough, agressive player.

Andrew Fletcher · #8 12-16-2005, 01:17 AM

You don't think I will alternate my play when I move up?

djoyce003 · #9 12-16-2005, 02:18 PM

in general I tighten up if I get reraised.....you are either folding out a dominated hand, or you are giving a better hand like Kk the chance to reraise you...see the flop cheap, if you flop an ace you are probably ahead, if you don't you are probably behind and I'd fold...that's how I tend to play it.