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Old 07-13-2005, 02:07 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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hand 1: villain has already shown that he's capable of pushing less than any two against you since he has folded once. Also, since he's been pushing a lot he's probably expecting you to loosen up your calling range, which would cause him to push less here. Although I would still predict that he has a fairly wide pushing range, its not wide enough to call with J7s. He knows that he has a loose image so I really can't see him pushing the junk required to make this a good call.
hand 2: Its definitly close, but with you playing as tight as you have I think that you can get away with a push here. I obviously don't play the step 5s, but I really can't see him calling with things like QT and K9.

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you still have enough chips to look for better opportunies.

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the villain seems to know what he's doing, so I really doubt that you can get an edge much beyond a coin flip HU in a step 5. Citanul really needs to be taking any small edge that he can get.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Two heads up hands

Does villian know you are a 2+2er?
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:09 PM
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I'd probably fold both of these with the intention of pushing the next hand with any 2.

Edit: This is assuming your stack is beginning to get small from the "too tight" play. If you somehow started with a huge advantage, then you probably don't need to push the next hand. With blinds where they are though, and assuming your stack is getting in the 3000 - 3500 range, I'd probably be pushing most anything to keep from getting blinded too far down. Also your pushes should get some respect if you've been playing tight.

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Quoting myself here because I misread the hand. I thought you were BB in each. So... I fold the first with the intention of pushing the next hand and then I push the Q4.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:11 PM
Phil Van Sexton Phil Van Sexton is offline
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Whilst i cant disagree with your analysis, im mucking both hands.

Q4 cos you still have enough chips to look for better opportunies.

J7s prolly does well against his range, but again, plenty of chips. Your worth more than that hand.

Phill

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People would really fold Q4 after not having pushed even once when heads-up?

Given the description, I'm pushing almost any hand here.

I don't think there's any reason to consider calling J7s in the first hand.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:15 PM
citanul citanul is offline
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Default Re: Two heads up hands

villain very very much knows i'm a 2+2er. like he said "are you citanul the 2+2 mod?"
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:16 PM
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Whilst i cant disagree with your analysis, im mucking both hands.

Q4 cos you still have enough chips to look for better opportunies.

J7s prolly does well against his range, but again, plenty of chips. Your worth more than that hand.

Phill

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People would really fold Q4 after not having pushed even once when heads-up?

Given the description, I'm pushing almost any hand here.

I don't think there's any reason to consider calling J7s in the first hand.

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Yep, that was exactly my thinking. If you don't push Q4o, what DO you push?
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:18 PM
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Yep, that was exactly my thinking. If you don't push Q4o, what DO you push?

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Old 07-13-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Two heads up hands

The I would fold first hand, push 2nd, and threaten to ban him if he knocks you out. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Two heads up hands

i did that too!
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:21 PM
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I assume stack size is 5K at the time of the hands

Phill

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I guess I'm having trouble figuring out how this is the case if villian has pushed 5-6 SBs heads up and hero has not yet pushed. How is it still even, unless hero had a dominating chip lead to start heads up.

This thread is making my brain hurt. I think perhaps I'll just leave it alone.
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