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Re: Simple
Isn't his flop raise also consistent with a hand like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? I'd be a little concerned that there were several players still left to act behind him when he raised the flop - indicating that he was on something other than a strong draw.
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#12
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Re: Simple
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this guy wont check a turn with a king. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you're right. My bad. |
#13
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Re: Simple
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I made a similar raise on Saturday I knew I wasn't going to get called but I was sort of pissed that I gave him a card so I check-raised the river to say [censored] you. I guess in this hand you gain a bit when he folds a better king he was just trying to show down. Obv he's folding most of the time. Nh. [/ QUOTE ] OK, my thoughts about him folding a better king are retarded. 2 things: 1. The river check-raise is basically a metagame don't [censored] with me move b/c he's clearly not calling with a worse hand. 2. If he bets the turn and the river, you fold the river, right? |
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Re: Simple
I like a check/called river bc of the possibility of the ste here.
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Re: Simple
an abc with TdXd bets here when checked to I think. i like it.
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Re: Simple
I like it. Were you going to fold to a turn bet? With a stronger hand, I like pulling a stop 'n go here. WIth such a weak hand, though, I like checking - in fact, the chance that villain takes a free card is part of why I would call the flop raise in the first place.
On the river, I like checking to induce a bluff or a value-bet from a T. I think the raise is thin, but I like it - mostly because of the small but real chance that we can get villain to stupidly fold a weak king and save us half the pot. |
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Re: Simple
I miss read the hand. I thought the other guy bet the turn.
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Re: Simple
Dave,
My preferred line is a turn stop'n'go. Barring that, a river check-raise is really hot. I hope you guys enjoyed AC. Was this game the 20, 40, or 80? |
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Re: Simple
The only reason I can see to C/R the river rather than C/Call is to represent trips and get a better K to fold. However most are in agreement that a K would not check this turn. I do agree that it would be silly for K to check the turn even if he has kicker concerns when he could take a free showdown at the river if Hero calls a turn bet.
Thing is we really can't be sure villian does not check a weak K on the turn and the raise on the river even though usually meaningless may help eliminate a chop situation. I doubt it gets a better K to fold, but it is much, much, much, less likely that KJ would ever check through the turn so I think it would be a very rare situation when we cost ourselves a bet from KJ. Check-raise river looks good IMO. |
#20
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Re: Simple
nice play
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