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Old 12-20-2005, 11:43 AM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.

Short answer: No.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.

I recently stopped playing for a weekend and instead closely studied a large number of hands I had put in over the last few months. I found some interesting PT data about a few situations. This is one of them. This is close, but given my data, I would fold. If this pot were larger, I would probably call them down. Or if this were a different player (very loose and aggressive) I would call down.

What I found startled me: The vast majority of times where I was check raised on the turn with a hand like this I was drawing to few outs or dead. I lost a lot of money on small pots to tight unimaginative players who I would never call down live, because it is so easy to hit the call button. NO MORE.

Mark

PS I also found that I was overdoing the flop aggression with hands that were too weak. (My flop aggression was over 3, I think it was too high). I also was betting the river too many times where I got raised (but that's only 1 lost bet)
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Old 12-21-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.

I did just about this exact same thing. Villain is a tag. I'm not sure how good it was still...

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">8 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.33 BB
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Folding top pair to the turn CR.

Flop play makes this one pretty different IMO and I would never fold there fwiw.
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