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Old 11-09-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Can you make a living playing live 3/6 poker?

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Upstreak. I've had the great honor to sit at said juicy tables at Commerce for hours only to not win a single hand (I think my record is 4 hours cold.) When you get dealt crap, and you get cracked, evnetually you will get stacked =D

The games are juicy, but 50 an hour (8.3333 bb/hr at 3/6) is definitely not sustainable... also consider that the rake at merce is 4 bucks a hand. At 2/4, assuming you win a lowly 6 percent of your hands, thats a -6bb/100 inherent disadvantage you have to overcome.

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I'm sure you're right about the upstreak. Even so, those tables are juicy. After 4 hours of cold cards you're set to go on a rush. Bring enough $$ so getting stacked isn't a problem. I've played up to 10 - 12 hour sessions and been $200 down after the first couple of hours, but I've never had a problem getting ahead again.

- FYI you have to calculate a tip along with the rake charge, so more like -10bb/100 hands disadvantage. There are so many advantages in a B&M to make up for this though. Tells, table chatter, tilt (much more visible at a B&M), sleep deprivation, alcohol, etc...
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:18 PM
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Yes, you can, if you don't mind living in poverty. Living in LA, where 40,000/ year gets rent, food, and a pair of shoes every six months.... making $6/ hr is five roomates and a bus pass.

But I do make a living at 3/6 and I know a few others who do also, but we are all proposition players.
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:40 PM
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Yes, you can, if you don't mind living in poverty. Living in LA, where 40,000/ year gets rent, food, and a pair of shoes every six months.... making $6/ hr is five roomates and a bus pass.

But I do make a living at 3/6 and I know a few others who do also, but we are all proposition players.

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Just curious - how much do you make hourly as a prop? Where do you work?
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Old 11-09-2005, 05:54 PM
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Yes, you can, if you don't mind living in poverty. Living in LA, where 40,000/ year gets rent, food, and a pair of shoes every six months.... making $6/ hr is five roomates and a bus pass.

But I do make a living at 3/6 and I know a few others who do also, but we are all proposition players.

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Just curious - how much do you make hourly as a prop? Where do you work?

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I don't want to say where I play, but small stakes props generally get paid ~$12 an hour, plus whatever they make or lose at the table.

There are a few inherent problems with propping, and one is table selection. Many props are not eligable for casino promos and tournaments, etc. Some props play in NL as well.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Can you make a living playing live 3/6 poker?

i'm totally clueless on why anyone would choose to play b&m for a living over online. i can understand that it's more fun, you like being able to get tells on players etc, but c'mon... 33 hands an hour vs 500-600 an hour? that just doesn't make sense.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:15 PM
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my $.02

I am amazed at how the majority of these posts are making such broad assumptions regarding swings & variance (or lack thereof). You could sit down at commerce for 2 straight days, play your A-game and still lose at the end of it. Downswings happen. Coming up from your last 10 trips down to the local cardroom, EVEN if you won every time and played for 10-straight hours each time etc. etc.... it will eventually be an inconsequential blip of your poker career with little to no meaning as to how good you are.

Regarding the original post ... making a living playing 3-6 sounds like pure hell and i'd rather pump gas or sell shoes & play on the weekends.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:19 PM
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i'd rather pump gas or sell shoes & play on the weekends.

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i sold shoes at sears in high school before i got fired for refusing to rat out my friend who was stealing money from the register. it was actually really fun, i got commision and made pretty good money. i'd probably do it again just because it was fun.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:24 PM
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i'd rather pump gas or sell shoes & play on the weekends.

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i sold shoes at sears in high school before i got fired for refusing to rat out my friend who was stealing money from the register. it was actually really fun, i got commision and made pretty good money. i'd probably do it again just because it was fun.

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My buddies worked @ a sports store in HS ... it was fun tooling around with all the sports equipment on the job. Lining up all the damn shoe boxes every night only to have them totally hosed by customers the next day seemed like it would get annoying
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:24 PM
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In the defense of live play, the few 3/6 and 5/10 live games I've played were softer than party's .5/1. Yes the rake is higher, the play is slower and you only get to play one table. But, damn, those games are sooo much better than party's 3/6 or 5/10.
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Old 11-09-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Can you make a living playing live 3/6 poker?

Of course you're correct. I'm not trying to make broad assumptions based on my experience. I was simply saying that I can see how it would be possible to make a living at 3/6, although I wouldn't want to do it.

To answer the other poster, playing 500 hands an hour online seems like too much work. 3/6 B&M games play like .25/.5 online games (or worse). I would imagine the 20/40 B&M games are closer to 3/6 online. You can play more hands per hour online, but the B&M player can play for more money per hand at the same skill level with less work while having more fun (and getting backrubs and food service).
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